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  • After I finished playing awakened, I just am totally confused on were the series could possibly go. Now, since all the moons are awake, I don't think anyone can stop it. Isaac barely stopped the first Moon! So, I just don't know. Any idea's or thoughts?

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    • Well... from my experience with Dead Space and playing Dead Space 3 there's only a few things that they can do. I believe (my opinion) that Issac (and possibly Carver) will be fighting the Necromorphs on Earth. The moons will be crashing down on them, sending hordes among hordes of the things down at you. The Necromorphs should be stronger in this one with all the moons activated and I also think (once again my opinion) that they should keep the weapon building, it was a great mechanic. Anyways... that's all the ideas for now... sorry if they suck... but yeah... bye.

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    • Stopping the moons seems like a huge problem maybe Isaac will somehow tap into one of the marker copies on earth and do battle in his mind then somehow reverse the marker signal causing the marker to turn blue and react with all the other marker copies destroying all the necromorphs and knocking out the moons which could in turn stop the EMP effect of their signals so EarthGov could nuke the moons or push them into the sun with plantcrackers or something just an idea and a rough one at that

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    • Or they could find the creator race. And figure out how to completely destroy, or at least reverse the effects of the markers.

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    • Not reverse as in everyone comes back to life. But reverse as in the earth becomes slathered in a dead goo from the moons after being broken down.

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    • Battling the moons with conventional weapons is out of the picture for a horror genre I guess.

      67.241.12.185 's idea of attacking the markers inside, not the moons themselves seems to be the most plausible way. Our dynmaic duo has to search an infested Earth for some weird device.

      Earth in Death Space seems like a hellhole anyway and huge tentalces coming from the sky would only further  the apocalyptic mood.

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    • IM guessing what is going to happen is that you are going to find a amazing weapon and use a ship to control that weapon and fight moons with itt. Thatd be legit!

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    • I don't know.

      I mean we have machines that crack planets apart.

      Perhaps they Isaac Carver and Ellie will be hired by the Unitologists and given a brand new ship called the USG Normady and tasked to find a way to stop the moons.

      They will travel through distant colonies to gather up man power and intelligence to built a machine of great power called The Crucible and launch a full scale attack on the moons.

      Then at the last second the "network" that the moons form will be presented to Isaac as a boy (hallucination) and give him three choices.

      A:sacrifice himself to become the new hivemind of the moons

      B:sacrifice himself in order to create a new universal DNA lifeform that is still alive but shares necromorphic traits

      C:completely destroy the moons but doom all life to a slow uncertain evolution

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    • 94.69.7.62 wrote:
      I don't know.

      I mean we have machines that crack planets apart.

      Perhaps they Isaac Carver and Ellie will be hired by the Unitologists and given a brand new ship called the USG Normady and tasked to find a way to stop the moons.

      They will travel through distant colonies to gather up man power and intelligence to built a machine of great power called The Crucible and launch a full scale attack on the moons.

      Then at the last second the "network" that the moons form will be presented to Isaac as a boy (hallucination) and give him three choices.

      A:sacrifice himself to become the new hivemind of the moons

      B:sacrifice himself in order to create a new universal DNA lifeform that is still alive but shares necromorphic traits

      C:completely destroy the moons but doom all life to a slow uncertain evolution

      FUCK THAT!!! xD

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    • 94.69.7.62 wrote:
      I don't know.

      I mean we have machines that crack planets apart.

      • Cutting out the sacastic part.*


      Planet crackers vs moons sounds like an idea usable

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    • Hey here's another possibilty... maybe another alien species might come into play. It's not that far fetched, but it'll be a kind of cheap way to settle the score.

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    • PLEASE VISCERAL...for the love of God...dont try to even make us remenber about mass effect on the ending of DS4...I mean...NO F*CKING SPACE MAGIC MACHINE THAT EMITS A KAMEHAMEHA WAVE THAT KILLS ALL THE MOONS !!

      ok, I feel better now :), also, lets take the scientific route and reverse the marker signal back to the moons so it harms then instead of us...maybe ???

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    • A bit late for that. They already employed "space magic" with the aliens, that's pretty much what the Alien Machine/Codex is; the game certainly never went into explaining how the machine worked (how it could create a flash freeze, put a sentient planet into hibernation, but not stop its signal), just that it would stop the Brother Moon dead in its tracks if it was allowed to complete its function. That's about as much information as we got with Mass Effect 3 and the Crucible ("We don't know how it works or if it will work, but it'll stop the Reapers, so lets use it"). This is just one of those plot stigmas that come with MacGuffins strong enough to stop what is often set up as a unstoppable enemy unless you've got a writer that really, really wants to show how their MacGuffin works within the story.

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    • Lily Ford wrote:
      A bit late for that. They already employed "space magic" with the aliens, that's pretty much what the Alien Machine/Codex is; the game certainly never went into explaining how the machine worked (how it could create a flash freeze, put a sentient planet into hibernation, but not stop its signal), just that it would stop the Brother Moon dead in its tracks if it was allowed to complete its function. That's about as much information as we got with Mass Effect 3 and the Crucible ("We don't know how it works or if it will work, but it'll stop the Reapers, so lets use it"). This is just one of those plot stigmas that come with MacGuffins strong enough to stop what is often set up as a unstoppable enemy unless you've got a writer that really, really wants to show how their MacGuffin works within the story.


      The flash freeze doesn't need to be explained, there are enough "scientific" explanations (by sci-fi standards) for that. The freezing should have more or less trapped the moon as well. How that thing managed to pull the moon towards Tau Volantis, however, remains a mystery, especially since the machine wasn't anchored on the plante but next to the moon itself.

      The whole brethren moon network is very, very weird. It doesn't make any sense at all.

      What it hate the most is that they destroyed the alien machine. they were two people against danik. One could have easily shot him while he took the codex.

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    • Heres my rough idea. Isaac and Carver dredge up the Terran Black Marker and use the knowledge of the former expert Marker constructer dubbed "Rosetta" to "hack" into the Moon's psionic network and, by extension, one of the Brothers. Isaac loses his marbles while "in the driver's seat" and begins devouring Moon, Monster, and Man alike. In a fit of animalistic panic, Carver swipes Isaac's own Plasma Cutter and decapitates (the last bit of dismemberment in the entire series) him with it. The Rogue Moon in orbit suddenly loses orbit and collides with Earth, evaporating 75% of what remains of the World's oceans and setting off a Krakatoa-esque explosion that shoots lower crust magma and stony sharpnel into orbit with blinding speed and burns the remaing Moons as violently as physically possible.

      The Moons let out a psionic scream that drives 4 billion of the world's population mad and break up into pieces that become Earth satellites, collide with Luna, or rain upon the Earth and eradicate 89% of life anyway. What happens after that and in between the listed events. . . is up to someone that is better with character interaction then I am. Of course, they could yank another Crucible-esque device out of their rears again, but they've likely learned by now . . . right? 

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    • 204.10.222.10 wrote:
      Heres my rough idea. Isaac and Carver dredge up the Terran Black Marker and use the knowledge of the former expert Marker constructer dubbed "Rosetta" to "hack" into the Moon's psionic network and, by extension, one of the Brothers. Isaac loses his marbles while "in the driver's seat" and begins devouring Moon, Monster, and Man alike. In a fit of animalistic panic, Carver swipes Isaac's own Plasma Cutter and decapitates (the last bit of dismemberment in the entire series) him with it. The Rogue Moon in orbit suddenly loses orbit and collides with Earth, evaporating 75% of what remains of the World's oceans and setting off a Krakatoa-esque explosion that shoots lower crust magma and stony sharpnel into orbit with blinding speed and burns the remaing Moons as violently as physically possible.

      The Moons let out a psionic scream that drives 4 billion of the world's population mad and break up into pieces that become Earth satellites, collide with Luna, or rain upon the Earth and eradicate 89% of life anyway. What happens after that and in between the listed events. . . is up to someone that is better with character interaction then I am. Of course, they could yank another Crucible-esque device out of their rears again, but they've likely learned by now . . . right? 

      That in a nut-shell. LOL 

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    • 189.27.52.20 wrote:
      PLEASE VISCERAL...for the love of God...dont try to even make us remenber about mass effect on the ending of DS4...I mean...NO F*CKING SPACE MAGIC MACHINE THAT EMITS A KAMEHAMEHA WAVE THAT KILLS ALL THE MOONS !!

      ok, I feel better now :), also, lets take the scientific route and reverse the marker signal back to the moons so it harms then instead of us...maybe ???


      KAMEHAMEHA WAVE! That pretty much sum's up the machines capabilities.. but yes I think some sort of scientific endeavor is very much needed to close out all these miserable plot-holes. I hope we can find out who were the true makers of the markers, and how to either stop convergence for good, or the necromorphs.. IDK im so lost at this point on where this story is going.. 

      Meeehhhh

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    • I believe the most plausibile conclusion will be that humanity is basically fucked. Issac and Carver will be the only survivors. Then, they will have to find a way to destroy the moons, resulting in their deaths once and for all along with the deaths of the moon. Plus, what everyone is saying about a moon home world... I kind of don't see that happening. I can see an alpha moon but not a moon homeworld. Oh and here's a potential plot twist just because now I'm ranting: Luna is the marker source. Think about it. Luna is a moon, but not a necromorph moon. Yeah. Awesome.

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    • 94.69.7.62 wrote: I don't know.

      I mean we have machines that crack planets apart.

      Perhaps they Isaac Carver and Ellie will be hired by the Unitologists and given a brand new ship called the USG Normady and tasked to find a way to stop the moons.

      They will travel through distant colonies to gather up man power and intelligence to built a machine of great power called The Crucible and launch a full scale attack on the moons.

      Then at the last second the "network" that the moons form will be presented to Isaac as a boy (hallucination) and give him three choices.

      A:sacrifice himself to become the new hivemind of the moons

      B:sacrifice himself in order to create a new universal DNA lifeform that is still alive but shares necromorphic traits

      C:completely destroy the moons but doom all life to a slow uncertain evolution

      Pretty much this. Awakened was pretty much the Arrival DLC for ME2

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    • Here's how it should go: Isaac and Carver, aboard the Terra Nova, crash land it into the Earth's atmosphere as the Moons attack and find themselves outside of... London, England (why not?) and initially are forced to fight through waves of Necros, civilians driven crazy by the influence of the Moons, and rioters and looters. Once they get their act together, they come in contact with a regiment of EarthGov troops, one of whom has a plan. The pair and their allies pick up Ellie, who is overjoyed to see Isaac, of course, and the trio and EarthGov put their yet to be determined plan into action and get pwned by the Moons.

      Some time later, ta-da, here comes the ORIGINAL Marker creator race, who's numbers have been reduced to a few hundred over the centuries of Marker influence. The creators assist the humans by finding a way to temporarily stun the Moons long enough to release their tentacles from Earth and launch a final human offensive against the Moons in orbit. The remaining EarthGov starships and various Planet Crackers (I like the idea of the Planet Crackers attacking the moons by pulling them apart) attack the Moons and have some success until the BOSS MOON arrives!!!!!!!11111!!!!1111!!!11!!!!!111one!!!!!

      Isaac and Carver find a way onto the Boss Moon where they find that the ORIGINAL Marker is controling it and all the other Moons. The pair have a epic fight with the very essence of the Marker- a being of pure energy. The first Marker is destroyed, which destroys the Boss Moon, all the other Moons, every Necro on Earth and in the galaxy, and restores every crazy and dementia ridden person to sanity.

      The final scene shows Isaac and Ellie getting married months later in a partially destroyed church with the remains of a Moon far off in the distance.  

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    • Epic story.. that there is your conclusion to DS4!... Lol

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    • IortizCEC wrote:
      Epic story.. that there is your conclusion to DS4!... Lol

      Thanks man! I like being epic!

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    • A game continuing Lexine's story would be much nicer.

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    • Mr Bio Shock wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      Epic story.. that there is your conclusion to DS4!... Lol
      Thanks man! I like being epic!

      No worries, keep it coming! 

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    • oh Good God in heaven, I can even see Isaac Shepard screaming ka..me..ha..me..haaaaaaaaaa... and using the energy of the alien crucible machine to kill the alien marker AI that destroyed the first civilation of the galaxi ( yah I came up with the kamehameha coment...) then later finding out that no matter how much he strugles, the galaxi will be destroyed on all 3 creative endings...

      Now gettin serious...Visceral please, we are trying to warn you...do NOT turn this into mass effect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      (sorry for my bad english, I´m a Brazilian, not a American or British)

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    • i have the perfect solution isaac calls his dad for help Chuck Norris Clark

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    • 94.69.7.62 wrote:
      I don't know.

      I mean we have machines that crack planets apart.

      Perhaps they Isaac Carver and Ellie will be hired by the Unitologists and given a brand new ship called the USG Normady and tasked to find a way to stop the moons.

      They will travel through distant colonies to gather up man power and intelligence to built a machine of great power called The Crucible and launch a full scale attack on the moons.

      Then at the last second the "network" that the moons form will be presented to Isaac as a boy (hallucination) and give him three choices.

      A:sacrifice himself to become the new hivemind of the moons

      B:sacrifice himself in order to create a new universal DNA lifeform that is still alive but shares necromorphic traits

      C:completely destroy the moons but doom all life to a slow uncertain evolution

      hahaha my sides

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    • The Moons should have no creator. For me the moons fullfill PERFECTLY the role of an galactic VIRUS!!! And Planets are the cells they will infect with there DNA (MARKER) for replication. That the planet population become crazy and create own Markers after the original is like DNA replication in a cell affected by virus DNA. The moons are an Alien species itself. No need for creators (exception Creator of the Universe aka GOD!^^).

      The Moons cannot stopped with normal weapons. Chances are high that the Marker and they signal and a component X (a weakness in the marker /moon relation is discovered or a device X that can send a devastating Signal trough the Markers) will play a role in DS4. Yes...probably a ME3 kind ending.

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    • The moons are created from necroctic flesh. Assimilation occurs when there is enough "mass" around the markers, dead space. Triggering the Covergence event. Something had to have created the markers... the moons are the final stage of the whole process. 

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    • I was hoping before finishing my Awakened first play through that Issac and Carver would make it to Earth before the Brethren Moons. By the end we see two of the necro-moons in orbit of Earth and its moon.

      So in Dead Space 4 the other Brethren Moons could be elsewhere in Earthgov space, consuming the other colonies and creating more "brothers" as they all start to converge on humanities home world. In order to defeat the necromorphs for good, Issac, John Carver, Ellie and co must make a Faustian pact with the remnants of Earthgov led by the shadowy "Overseer" against the Brethren Moons and their human thralls; the surviving Unitologists, most of whom have become the lunatic slaves to the Brethren Moons. Possible Macguffin that really should show up would be the original, alien, Black Marker that can commune with the Brethren Moons in a more unique way than the human made Red Markers. Therefore Issac can use his twisted "gift" he received from the Aegis VII Marker to discover a fatal flaw in the necromorphs and the Markers. Yet to do this it must cost Issac more than his own survival or Ellie's life.

      P.S. Visceral, writing credit please! ;)

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    • Mephisto, that's just Mass Effect 3

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote: Mephisto, that's just Mass Effect 3

      Really? Damn I was not even joking. 0_0; It need not involve imaginary children. ;) I actually barely know the Mass Effect trilogy's storyline from beginning to end. Played the demo for the second and third games on my PlayStation 3 but would rather play all three games the way they were meant to be played; on a PC.

      As for continued "constructive" criticism about what Dead Space 4 could entail it seems unanimous that the location needs to be darker and a stronger emphasis on survival horror. Yet what of the plot? Aside from the consequences of Convergence there are still many, many loose plot threads (and a few unsightly plot holes) that Visceral could address. Personally I definitely want to see the "Overseer" and the white clothed "Oracle" agents make a return as the primary human antagonists. This was something left over from Dead Space 2 that Visceral purposely alluded was going to be in the sequel but is conspicuously absent from Dead Space 3.

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    • I was surprised that they didn't include more into Awakened that involved both the Oracles AND Overseer. I mean, in reality, the Oracles are just more higher ranked and more... omnious sector of  'The Circle', and the Overseer should've been notified the moment that the Luna outbreak occured. Maybe the Terra Nova could've picked up a transmission from the ship the Overseer and marker experts were on, and that could've kick-started Dead Space 4. 

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    • Personally I'd like to see the story continue with the inclusion of the Black Marker.

      All of the other copies, even the ones on Tau Volantis, have all been red right? So what if the Black Marker is the true source of all of the brethren moons? I think its something that Visceral can expand upon.

      The Black Marker is still on Earth, as far as we know, so maybe thats what originally lured the brethren moons to it? Who knows? Still something to expand on I think.

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    • Unfortunately, I think Visceral already turned it into Mass Effect 3. The only difference is it's only concentrated around the human race and Earth.

      The worst thing is there's no going back now, they have to use some miracle device to stop all of the moons or let most of humanity die. I would actually prefer that. Whole DS4 you try find a way to stop the moons only to realize your best option is to escape and start over somewhere else. Hell, maybe make the plot about Isaac simply trying to find Ellie on Earth. That way Isaac returns to his role of an average guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stop this "Marker Killer" chosen one role he was given.

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    • 146.102.113.168 wrote: Unfortunately, I think Visceral already turned it into Mass Effect 3. The only difference is it's only concentrated around the human race and Earth.

      The worst thing is there's no going back now, they have to use some miracle device to stop all of the moons or let most of humanity die. I would actually prefer that. Whole DS4 you try find a way to stop the moons only to realize your best option is to escape and start over somewhere else. Hell, maybe make the plot about Isaac simply trying to find Ellie on Earth. That way Isaac returns to his role of an average guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stop this "Marker Killer" chosen one role he was given.

      Yeah they wrote themselves into a corner haven't they? You have to know that the vision of the necromoons in orbit of Earth the end of "Awakened" can be retconed to another hallucination. Actually I was really confused about the whole "Marker killer" thing at the end of the main game. If I were Issac I would have said to John Carver "Really? Thanks man" and jetted off with Ellie XD.

      Nah I understand he didn't want to leave it to Carver after going through everything to see the mission to the end. That and with the marker codes still stuck in his head Issac is kind of destined to die if the necromorphs are to be stopped for good.

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    • The "Marker Killer" is just what Isaac called himself since he felt that he of all people deserved to kill the Moon. He didn't actually use his "Marker Killing" abilities like at the end of Dead Space 2.

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    • I think Danik gave him that title as he was known among Unitologists as the one that destroyed the marker on the Sprawl and (indirectly) the one on Aegis VII. Please correct me if I am wrong but the first time we hear the term is from Danik when he captures Issac, John Carver and Robert Norton on Tau Volantis.

      I believe Issac could be a threat to humanity as he still has the information on how to build markers (as shown in the beginning of Dead Space 3). Since a new Brethren moon is created from a single marker during convergence (as seen in that vision from the "Rosetta" alien) I believe it means each of the markers are like a seed for the Brethren moons. However it is sort of a chicken and the egg dilemma actually. Did the first Brethren moon create the markers since the latter gain their energy from the former? Or did a different race of beings initiate the first convergence event in the universe with the first marker and join together to become the first necromoon?

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    • EA forced Visceral to do this. They won't force them to do the honourable thing, which is; Issac lands on earth, goes through a shit-storm with Carver to find Ellie, escape, and live hiding until they all die.


      No. No, no ,no. They're going to find an alien planet. The aliens who made the markers. They're going to get some super weapon from them, or kill them all to access one, then they're magically going to pull the moons' orbits into the sun or some bullshit. I'm not saying that because of Mass Effect 3. I'm saying that because EA wants money. EA wants a "Happy ending". EA wants more casual gamers. 



      I guarantee Glen Schofield is fucking pissed off at the atrocities that Papoutsis let EA make them do... I reckon that if they had control, Awakened wouldn't have existed. Issac and Carver would've died. And the DLC that they DEFINATELY would've released would've let up on what REALLY happened to Gabe after they picked him up from that hanger in the sprawl, because we know he's not dead, and he WILL play a part in DS4. Oh, and the series would've ended.

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    • I might be the only person (Well,to be more specific,the only dead space fan) that's NOT hoping for a 4th game (The last thing i want is for Dead space to end up like resident evil and be milked out of everything it has)But if they do decide to make a sequel to DS3,I think it would work best if they followed the idea that the ending to awakened was just a hallucination created by the brethren moons to taunt isaac and carver (Considering those bastards just love to mess with their victim's minds)And that isaac and carver have to return to earth and find a way to stop the moons before they get to earth.And maybe,just maybe,bring back lexine (I mean she is immune to the marker signals,maybe they can revolve around that?)

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    • I don't think a new alien species should be introduced as 'alive'... since, you know, the moons bring about a 'dead space'.

      The moons seem like an alien species itself that functions with the death of others... even if artificial, they seem to be their own lifeform (since they seem to exibit signs of growing in a particular shap, mostly one sort of appearance, usually one of strange invertebrate creatures, such as insects, crustaceans, and so forth).

      Strange... Many moons are suppose to hold those of Necromorphs, yes? I wonder how they travelled so fast towards earth... if they actually did.

      I am a bit of disbelief, though. Remember at the end, when Issac and carver saw all those moons? It had the similar static ending that was in Dead Space. Still, could be that they are.

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    • 190.98.127.2 wrote: I might be the only person (Well,to be more specific,the only dead space fan) that's NOT hoping for a 4th game (The last thing i want is for Dead space to end up like resident evil and be milked out of everything it has)But if they do decide to make a sequel to DS3,I think it would work best if they followed the idea that the ending to awakened was just a hallucination created by the brethren moons to taunt isaac and carver (Considering those bastards just love to mess with their victim's minds)And that isaac and carver have to return to earth and find a way to stop the moons before they get to earth.And maybe,just maybe,bring back lexine (I mean she is immune to the marker signals,maybe they can revolve around that?)

      I fully agree

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    • I want there to be a DS4. Before DS3 was released, however, I wanted DS3 to be the complete end. Nothing more. Only spin-offs like Extraction. But, of course, they had to live... and Carver just HAD to give Danik the Codex...

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    • It's just that they can NOT leave it like this. Or at least another book, or movie. Just SOMETHING to end the franchise. They need to quit while they're ahead...

      ... well, far enough ahead... right now, they've gone back from Dead Space 2... too.... action-y...

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    • Lets just hope they create a horror enviroment as in DS1, DS2 and Awakened, that Dead Space 3 lacked. And I would like combining weapons, as an energy cannon and a contact beam, not crafting them, as an overpowered rocket launcher (please, diferent kinds of ammo again). And I´d like necromorphs return to their normal speed.

      I loved DS3, but I just miss the old times.

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    • I honestly don't see why them adding in 30-50 different kinds of ammunition is a problem. What'd it be? A 50-150 mb patch, a few hours of work and programming. It's not that difficult for them. And have different crafting recipes. Like 5 tungsten and 60 semiconductors for 1 contact energy, or 10 semiconductors and 40 scrap metal for 6 plasma energy. It's not that freaking difficult. And make certain weapons share ammo, like all the bolas launchers, bouncing, anchored or otherwise. Plasma disperser/repeater/cutter all use the same. And not 1 type of universal for military weapons. Have shotgun shells, seeker shells, pulse rounds, rifle rounds. Make assault rifle, bullpup and carbine use the same. You all know what I mean. It wouldn't be THAT difficult to do that.. they're just lazy and greedy...

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    • Overall putting past comments aside, I think a DS4 is likely afoot. In my opinion, a DS3 was stretching it but a DS4 is just uneeded. Just another EA game with to many sequals. However overall, I am just going to assume there will be a DS4 and they will likely change everything including the theme. Likely the moons will attack Earth or another heavily colonized planet and they will have to find some other "magic" weapon like the Alien Machine. I use the word magic very losely because "magic" is just science we don't understand. Furthermore, the game's central theme will revolve around Isaac trying to create a large and powerful weapon like a planet cracker to dismantle the planet as a whole.

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    • Ellie turns up with a fleet of planet crackers, issac throws the black marker into the sun. The end.

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    • Well, I think I've already posted on this, but now I have a different thought on what could possibly happen.

      The Black Marker is a PORTAL to the true source, or they use it to find the true source, (While battling Necromorphs, of course), so that's a good part of the game gone,(battling on Earth). Then, when they arrive on the TRUE homeworld, it's either a total hellhole, or a barren, cold, grey, ruin-covered world. Then, they fight the creators, who I can't even begin to imagine, and they save the whole universe from certain doom. The end.

      Or everyone dies. Idc.

      What do you guys think?

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    • I think that. THEN everyone dies. So they can't make a DS5

      That would be horrible. A Dead Space 5.

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    • 67.191.76.62 wrote:
      Well, I think I've already posted on this, but now I have a different thought on what could possibly happen.

      The Black Marker is a PORTAL to the true source, or they use it to find the true source, (While battling Necromorphs, of course), so that's a good part of the game gone,(battling on Earth). Then, when they arrive on the TRUE homeworld, it's either a total hellhole, or a barren, cold, grey, ruin-covered world. Then, they fight the creators, who I can't even begin to imagine, and they save the whole universe from certain doom. The end.

      Or everyone dies. Idc.

      What do you guys think?

      I think it´s a good idea, i liked the part of recovering what ever lefts of the Black Marker.

      But I would suggest another game before DS4, (like Extraction was), and I would rather play in some kind of building with some nasty necromorfs that a whole planet full of Necromorphs. I would need to upgrade the secondary fire of contact beam to a massive scale.

      Although I liked a little bit of the previous idea:

      "Ellie turns up with a fleet of planet crakers, isaac throws the black marker into the sun. The end."

      LOL, I can imagine Elie´s extremly angry face, shouting in a manly way to his army:

      -"F*ck the moons!!!"

      I would buy that game, wouldn´t you?

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    • What if they pull a Matrix on us and have Isaac realize that it's all just one big dream? He wakes up from a coma in a hospital and comes to realize that there were no such things as Markers, Necromorphs, or the Moons. He finds out that Nicole is still alive and then the story ends.

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    • Deus Ex Machina MacGuffins. Lots of them. 

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    • If there were a DS4, Isaac and Carver run to the airlock of the Terra Nova and eject themselves to Earth before they get crushed by the moon. They then land on a huge pile of corruption. (Thousands of limbs severed later...) Isaac and Carver rally survivors to meet up.

      And Ellie is in one of them and they have there reunion. Later they get the remaining planet cracker ships in the local CEC facility and pilot them and hurl the necro moons either into the sun or Jupiter. DONE. Isaac, Carver and Ellie live. The survivors rebuild and everyone lives happily ever after... But there'll be lots of cleaning up to do.

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    • I seriously doubt they could survive burning up in Earth's atmosphere

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      I seriously doubt they could survive burning up in Earth's atmosphere

      They already survived burning up in the atmosphere of, and crashing to the of, Tau Volantis. Do not doubt the stupitidy of their writers.

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    • Well the Machine is a giant Stasis/Kinesis machine, so I assumed that as it froze the planet, it also slowed their descent

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote: Well the Machine is a giant Stasis/Kinesis machine, so I assumed that as it froze the planet, it also slowed their descent

      From what I understood how the alien machine worked, the freezing of the planet was a last-ditch, mid-calibration, use of the machine before the convergence event had completed. Basically the alien natives of the planet for one reason or another ran out of time putting the final touches on their necromoon killing machine. So they had to use it a different way. Nevertheless I like the stasis/kinesis analogy considering those platforms you use when changing the machine.

      As for how Issac and John survived the end of the main game and into Awakened . . . yeah pretty poor writing. Best I could come up with is that the floating main component of the machine was meant to save whatever survivors there were who had activated it in order to try to salvage their species. Instead it was a couple of humans but it nevertheless transported them back to the planet surface near the alien "city".

      Yeah not the best solution but it is the best conclusion I could come to considering the lack of forethought given by the writers of "Awakened". "So we were saved by fucking aliens!?" - still I gotta say I love how Carver lamp shades the whole thing. Doesn't make up for lazy writing but it makes me smile how Carver continues to speak for the player ; ) .

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    • Oh! And that's where a possible DLC could come in or something, about how Isaac, Ellie, Carver, and the survivors deal with the few Necromorphs that survived from Marker Signal echoes that fade away after a few days.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Well the Machine is a giant Stasis/Kinesis machine, so I assumed that as it froze the planet, it also slowed their descent

      That doesn't make any sense. Also, we can't assume that. We are forced to assume they fell down to the planet, full speed, and survived burning up in the atmosphere.

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    • I often wondered since playing the ending how far up in the planet's atmosphere the Brethren Moon was. It seemed a lot closer to the surface after Danik deactivates the machine implying that it descended to finish gobbling up Tau Volantis.

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    • Maphisto86 wrote:
      I often wondered since playing the ending how far up in the planet's atmosphere the Brethren Moon was. It seemed a lot closer to the surface after Danik deactivates the machine implying that it descended to finish gobbling up Tau Volantis.

      He had to have been pretty high up considering he was floating.

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    • Maphisto86 wrote: I often wondered since playing the ending how far up in the planet's atmosphere the Brethren Moon was. It seemed a lot closer to the surface after Danik deactivates the machine implying that it descended to finish gobbling up Tau Volantis.

      Well of course it came down as soon as it thawed out.

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    • I gotta throw in Lexine's "immunity" as the weapon and the original Black Marker as the key. They'll use something similar to the pedestal on Aegis7 to boost the field she emits (as her presence seems to supress the marker signal symptoms).

      This signal is instead aimed at the source of the signals of the black markers (moons have markers in them.. maybe they have a source too). The Black Marker being "second generation", gets its orders from the source while the copies are "third gen" and get their signals from the Moons.

      Back-tracing the source of Black Marker's signal, they direct Lexine's anti-marker field (amplified) at the source, essentially making it go brain-dead and killing or at least weakening the Moons. This is less of a magical MacGruffin and more of a Chekov's Gun (using pieces introduced to us earlier).

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    • Just Destroy the earth, and live on Other colony

      Why bother saving the earth ?

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    • Well that's a silly thing to say. Billions of people live on earth. Probably less than a few million live offworld.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Well that's a silly thing to say. Billions of people live on earth. Probably less than a few million live offworld.

      I thought a lot more lived off-world. Since we've colonised as far as other galaxies, I'd think we'd have plenty of worlds and moons on which to live.

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    • What? There's only a handfull of colonies in Dead Space. And absolutely no intergalactic ones.

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    • Earth may be a shit-hole in the Dead Space universe, but think of it like this:


      There are about 11 billion humans alive

      Around 20~ off-world colonies

      Titan Station WAS THE LARGEST OF THEM, consisting of ONLY 6 million people


      There's good reason to save earth. VERY GOOD REASON.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      What? There's only a handfull of colonies in Dead Space. And absolutely no intergalactic ones.

      Wasn't Aegis VII one such colony? It's distance from Earth would place it outside of the Milky Way, I believe.

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    • Do they even specify Aegis VII's distance from Earth?

      Ah, yes. One guy does say "several million lightyears from Earth," but that's very likely a hyperbole. Besides, Aegis VII is in the Cygnus system, which is probably very close to the Cygnus constellation.

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    • The only thing we can know for certain is that this story sucks. :(

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    • It's actually pretty good, up until the third game

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      It's actually pretty good, up until the third game



      Agreed


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    • Gotta disagree in part. The story of the main game was pretty good. Aside from the poorly written love triangle and lack of further depth into John Carver's malaise. However the 'Awakened' DLC is what really botched it. It did this by not only bringing back Issac and John from certain death with no reasons why they survived ("It was aliens") but also the brethren moons reaching Earth (seemingly) by the end really paints the franchise into a corner.

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    • Maphisto86 wrote:
      Gotta disagree in part. The story of the main game was pretty good. Aside from the poorly written love triangle and lack of further depth into John Carver's malaise. However the 'Awakened' DLC is what really botched it. It did this by not only bringing back Issac and John from certain death with no reasons why they survived ("It was aliens") but also the brethren moons reaching Earth (seemingly) by the end really paints the franchise into a corner.

      http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Alder+B+Dash/doing-a-solid-for-ea-promoting-dead-space-3-s-awesome-story-spoilers--250822.phtml

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    • Most of these points feel like they were artifically inserted.

      The worst part is the build up for the moon. The brethren moons are introduced in a small video, nothing else. No alien hieroglyphs, no logs, not even a "mindflash".

      Same for the fight against the moon. You know everything you do is in vain, because modern game design demands huge final bosses.

      Instead of, let's say, millions of years made the machine malfuction, boot up later or any other at least believable techno-speak we get "Hey Danik, go and awake the gigant eldtritch abomination, because love is more improtant than all of us (including Ellie) dying". If the moon had to be woken up in order to finally get rid of it, that would at least have been plausible.

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    • Yeah, I mean the plot was pretty dumb in Dead Space 3, but it wasn't an unforgivable abomination like Awakened. Seriously, fuck that add-on.

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    • The Milkman wrote:

      Maphisto86 wrote:
      Gotta disagree in part. The story of the main game was pretty good. Aside from the poorly written love triangle and lack of further depth into John Carver's malaise. However the 'Awakened' DLC is what really botched it. It did this by not only bringing back Issac and John from certain death with no reasons why they survived ("It was aliens") but also the brethren moons reaching Earth (seemingly) by the end really paints the franchise into a corner.

      http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Alder+B+Dash/doing-a-solid-for-ea-promoting-dead-space-3-s-awesome-story-spoilers--250822.phtml

      XD Thanks for showing me the light as always Milkman. *sigh* Was really loving the franchise until now.

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    • I have an idea again, this one not as Mass Effect-y

      This is more towards the end. As Isaac, Carver, Ellie, and friends fight through lots of angry things that want to kill them in brutal ways, the trio discover that the Moons in orbit are drawing their energy from and unknown source, whihc is deduced to be more than just a Marker. They hatch a plan to use the Black Marker (currently sitting at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico) to "pacify" the Moons around Earth long enough to get onto the biggest and apparently baddest Moon and launch a final counter attack. After fighting through the sunken facility in a specially designed UNDERWATER RIG and fighting Necromorphs UNDERWATER!!!!!1111!!!1111!!!one!1, Isaac and Carver use their magical magic to get the Black Marker to the surface and, well, attack.

      Isaac and Carver sneak onto the Evilest Moon and do things (Yeah, I'm running out of ideas :/) and THENNNNN... as it seems Isaac is about to be killed by the Moon, the game suddenly cuts to a shot of Isaac waking up aboard the USG Kellion, Kendra informing him that they are close to the Ishimura. Isaac stares in disbelief. Was it all a dream? He suddenly notices Marker symbols covering everything, and realizes this is yet another hallucination! He pushes past the "crew" and opens the airlock, to find that he is indeed still on the Moon. He runs and makes contact with a strange light eminiating from the Marker inside the Evilest Moon. Time and space contort and break down around him, and he, along with Carver of course, get transported to a dimension unlike no other- a dark, formless wasteland of towering mountains, huge spires, and strange architecture. The pair traverse this new world, being attacked by both Necromorphs and bizzare creatures like shadows- beings of pure energy, who are what has become of the Marker's original creators.

      They have a fight with a being who calls itself "The Eternal-" killing it with the help of an energy known as Aether they found in their journey. The dimension begins to collapse, and the pair escape as they find that the Moons have been destroyed, as well as every remaining Necromorph.

      Isaac and Carver part, Isaac has a very mushy scene with Ellie, they kiss, get married, and  live happily ever after, free of Necros and giant zombie moons.

      TEH END. 

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    • currently, visceral will not be making a fourth game. it just wont happen. EA's statement says something like: why put visceral on a game they have already made 3 of, when we can put them on something else? i do hope that EA/visceral sell the rights too the dead space franchise too some other company, but currently, i dont think anything but prequals/side stories can be made. it is easy too se at the end of DS3: awakened that isaac and carver crash into a brethren moon, and i doubt they could pull the whole "aliends saved us" thing again. DS3: awakened was a nice finish too a game that was left in a cliffhanger at the end of the DS3 story.

      maybe whoever EA/visceral sell dead space too could make a game on what happened on aegis VII in greater detail, putting us in the shoes of somebody on the ship/coloney. 


      i feel that this is not a mass effect style ending, because mass effect gave you choices that changed how the game worked and acted comepletely, dead space did not do that. this is not a mass effect styled ending, more of a tragic end too an epic story.

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    • Would you please link me to where EA made that statement?

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    • The story was anything but "epic" trust me. The real tragedy is how dumb it was.

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    • i have just proved my previous statement false with this article i found

      http://tech2.in.com/news/gaming/dead-space-not-scrapped-confirms-ea/891214

      and milkman, in horror games, and just games in general, the good guys do not always win. in my veiw, it was a fitting ending for something that was just an added two chapter DLC. it leaves the game open, in case EA wants something too happen, but it also closes the series. 

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    • No, it was poorly written for a lot of other reasons. The plot holes, the 180 degree turn in character development, the awkward script, the contrived set-ups and plot-points, and so on. It just wasn't good. This wasn't even a tragic or horrific ending. It was just a lame cliffhanger. Awakened is by far one of the worst add-ons I've ever played.

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    • Awakened was not a cliffhanger. it was as much a cliff hanger as halo 3's ending. it left room for more, but it also brought an end too the series. i liked Awakened, but it is pretty damn stupid that they announced the "real ending dlc" before DS3 even came out. 

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    • 75.9.168.241 wrote: Awakened was not a cliffhanger. it was as much a cliff hanger as halo 3's ending. it left room for more, but it also brought an end too the series. i liked Awakened, but it is pretty damn stupid that they announced the "real ending dlc" before DS3 even came out. 

      You have absolutely no idea what a cliff-hanger is. It didn't bring an end to anything.

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    • It ends at the height of the action. That's not an end to anything. It's them trying to get more of your money. It's just lazy writing.

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    • I hope they end it. I don't know how much more crappy writing I can take. Dead Space 3 I could get over. Awakened? Eff no. End it. Just end it.

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      I hope they end it. I don't know how much more crappy writing I can take. Dead Space 3 I could get over. Awakened? Eff no. End it. Just end it.

      That might be for the best. I don't want this series to go down the road of Mass Effect.

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    • The Milkman wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      I hope they end it. I don't know how much more crappy writing I can take. Dead Space 3 I could get over. Awakened? Eff no. End it. Just end it.
      That might be for the best. I don't want this series to go down the road of Mass Effect.


      Well they've already gone down the road of Asura's Wrath. How much worse could it get? (Tempting fate)

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      The Milkman wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      I hope they end it. I don't know how much more crappy writing I can take. Dead Space 3 I could get over. Awakened? Eff no. End it. Just end it.
      That might be for the best. I don't want this series to go down the road of Mass Effect.

      Well they've already gone down the road of Asura's Wrath. How much worse could it get? (Tempting fate)

      Just end the Dead Space on the 4th Installment on a nice note of coure not some Mass Effect BULLSHIT

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    • The Milkman wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      I hope they end it. I don't know how much more crappy writing I can take. Dead Space 3 I could get over. Awakened? Eff no. End it. Just end it.
      That might be for the best. I don't want this series to go down the road of Mass Effect.

      me too they already fucked it up the best they could do is finish the last one with a nice note like I said earlier PLEASE NO MASS EFFECT ENDING BULLSHIT 

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      75.9.168.241 wrote: Awakened was not a cliffhanger. it was as much a cliff hanger as halo 3's ending. it left room for more, but it also brought an end too the series. i liked Awakened, but it is pretty damn stupid that they announced the "real ending dlc" before DS3 even came out. 

      You have absolutely no idea what a cliff-hanger is. It didn't bring an end to anything.


      it was obvious from the moon's location that Isaac's ship would crash, thus killing isaac and carver, OR, they could pull the aliens excuse and make them live in a future sequal. 

      there is also room for plent of prequals. you could be put in control of the head engineer (i forgot his name, temple maybe?) from DS1, and play through the isimura, they could even go as far as to put you in some S.C.A.F. solider's shoes. what i am saying, is that there game ended. there is plenty of room for prequals, but not very much room for sequals. 

      i doubt that isaac and carver could somehow stear their ship off course from hitting the moon, crash land on earth, and survive the fall. let alone survive a planet filled with necromorphs. there simply is not much room left, maybe just one game, or another DS3 DLC. 

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    • Yeah, cause that's so implausible. It's not as if Isaac survived the vacuum of space and fell down to a planet without a helmet or anything.

      OH WAIT HE DID.

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    • Do you really think they have the balls to repeat themselves in such a short timeframe, though?

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    • ... yes.

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    • It actually wouldn't be that bad if they didn't crash into the Brother Moon very hard. Think about it; the Moons are quite intelligent and it could brace itself for the impact so it doesn't get killed. Then the game would open up with a level like Cortana from Halo 3.

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    • exactly Einstienium. i had a dream last night, and i was basically isaac clarke, and i thought this would be a realy good setup, because i just didnt think of this before

      just like you said, they did not crash into the moon very hard, and survived. now, with scarce resources on the moons, isaac and carver need too somehow destroy the moon, with necromorphs simply jumping out of the moons crust, those weird tentacle things that happenened in awakened DLC, and then when they are about too figure out how too destroy the moon, (isaac and carver will figure this out rather quickly) the moon gets all angry with them, and sends them flying through space, (like those flying scenes in DS3, while you are working on the the alien machine) and then ellie's space ship comes into veiw, she opens the back of the ship, and isaac and carver fall into it. ellie isaac and carver remain on the space ship, because earth is comepletly demolished, they only go too earth too try too find fuel, while they figure out what too do. they figure out some sort of weak spot on the moon, and begin to attempt too create some sort of weapon, like a cannon or something, to attack the moon. the problem though, is that the cannon needs to be stationary, because of how spot on accurate the weapon needs too be, and it has a large charge time, in which isaac and carver are defending the machine from hordes of necromorphs, and for some reason (i dont have all of the details >.>) the moon cannot directly attack the cannon. as the blast goes off, destroying the moon, and isaac and carver fly off the platform the cannon was on. and then they fall into a cave, with the weird squishy necromorph wall things too soften their fall. they have to get through the cave, and once on the other end. they see the wreckage of the cannon, and a half destroyed moon, but onloy HALF destroyed. it reveals the inside of the moon, and the creature inside. this is the final boss, which sends down those invincible necros, which go surround you. then ellie and her ship show up, and blast all of the necros to chunks. ellie then picks you up in the ship, and you fly towards the moon. isaac takes control of the ship and the machine guns on it. carver will (our you in single player, by pressing a different button) use the cannon. they then fly around the moon, being attacked by it. they finally destroy the moon, which causes the ship too half crash half land on earth. all of the necros are dead, and the three of them go around earth, finding multiple small groups of ten or so people, and then they begin life anew.

      they could then do some stuffs in DLC, such as hunt down the remaining unitologists, that havent renounced their ways. there could be ALTERNATE ending type things, (not this real ending bullcrap that EA did with deadspace3: awakened) such as isaac going insane and going on a rampage or something. or maybe when you beat the game on impossible you see that isaac is murdered by another person, and used as a martyr, thus begins the new church of "untitology" (it prob wont be named that, but IDK, leave it too ea to come up with names >.>)  in which isaacs son (whatever his name will be) and his mom (ellie) go on too attempt to assisinate the new leader, so on and so forth. this ends the traditional dead space series, but can create a new one, where isaac's son/sons/daughter/daughters can work with things. 

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    • 75.9.168.241 wrote:
      exactly Einstienium. i had a dream last night, and i was basically isaac clarke, and i thought this would be a realy good setup, because i just didnt think of this before

      just like you said, they did not crash into the moon very hard, and survived. now, with scarce resources on the moons, isaac and carver need too somehow destroy the moon, with necromorphs simply jumping out of the moons crust, those weird tentacle things that happenened in awakened DLC, and then when they are about too figure out how too destroy the moon, (isaac and carver will figure this out rather quickly) the moon gets all angry with them, and sends them flying through space, (like those flying scenes in DS3, while you are working on the the alien machine) and then ellie's space ship comes into veiw, she opens the back of the ship, and isaac and carver fall into it. ellie isaac and carver remain on the space ship, because earth is comepletly demolished, they only go too earth too try too find fuel, while they figure out what too do. they figure out some sort of weak spot on the moon, and begin to attempt too create some sort of weapon, like a cannon or something, to attack the moon. the problem though, is that the cannon needs to be stationary, because of how spot on accurate the weapon needs too be, and it has a large charge time, in which isaac and carver are defending the machine from hordes of necromorphs, and for some reason (i dont have all of the details >.>) the moon cannot directly attack the cannon. as the blast goes off, destroying the moon, and isaac and carver fly off the platform the cannon was on. and then they fall into a cave, with the weird squishy necromorph wall things too soften their fall. they have to get through the cave, and once on the other end. they see the wreckage of the cannon, and a half destroyed moon, but onloy HALF destroyed. it reveals the inside of the moon, and the creature inside. this is the final boss, which sends down those invincible necros, which go surround you. then ellie and her ship show up, and blast all of the necros to chunks. ellie then picks you up in the ship, and you fly towards the moon. isaac takes control of the ship and the machine guns on it. carver will (our you in single player, by pressing a different button) use the cannon. they then fly around the moon, being attacked by it. they finally destroy the moon, which causes the ship too half crash half land on earth. all of the necros are dead, and the three of them go around earth, finding multiple small groups of ten or so people, and then they begin life anew.

      they could then do some stuffs in DLC, such as hunt down the remaining unitologists, that havent renounced their ways. there could be ALTERNATE ending type things, (not this real ending bullcrap that EA did with deadspace3: awakened) such as isaac going insane and going on a rampage or something. or maybe when you beat the game on impossible you see that isaac is murdered by another person, and used as a martyr, thus begins the new church of "untitology" (it prob wont be named that, but IDK, leave it too ea to come up with names >.>)  in which isaacs son (whatever his name will be) and his mom (ellie) go on too attempt to assisinate the new leader, so on and so forth. this ends the traditional dead space series, but can create a new one, where isaac's son/sons/daughter/daughters can work with things. 

      Way of the list brother! jk I ain't your brother still way off the list that is what most people think what will happen a ending like The Last of Us would be perfect a person saved a race inevitable to destruction or something like that but pls no MASS EFFECT BULLSHIT!

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    • Why not release SCP-097 and SCP-682?

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    • What?

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    • To wrap up the DS series:

      When Isaac made a psychic connection to Rosetta, Rosetta implanted Isaac's DNA with a killcode for a specific marker (unknown at this point which one that might be).

      Aboard the Terra Nova watching the brethren moon converge to Earth's location, the event triggers something in Isaac.

      Rosetta implanted her remaining consciousness within him, and he travels within himself, fighting through hordes of nightmare-necromorphs that take the form of people he met throughout the series trying to make it to a glowing blue marker.

      When he finally reaches said marker, he is greeted by Rosetta whom reveals that the network between brethren moons is localized: they act as broods, each brood hostile towards the next. It's also revealed that at the center of each moon lies a being of pure energy. Each being acts within a localized network, a shared idea if you will, and each network differs from what element they absorb (the necromorphic moons being the element of flesh). Rosetta finishes by saying:

      "You will stop them, Isaac. But it will come at the heaviest of prices. You will ensure the safety of other cosmic races at the sacrifice of your own. I hope you understand the legacy you will leave behind outweighs your desire to save all you hold dear to you. When the time of your transdence arrives, remember the love shared not only between human and human but the love shared between life and life."

      At the very moment she is done, a bright flash imbues Isaac and he flashes back to reality. The ship he and Carver are on crash onto the brethren moon from Awakened. There they fight through hordes of not only human necromorphs, but the abominations of other races. They hold out as long as they can, and at the very last second see EarthGov ships descend onto the brethren moon. They picked up the Terra Nova signal and immediately sent the remaining detachment of colony and military ships off to flee the destruction of Earth, leaving some behind to search for the Terra Nova and to fight the Moons.

      They board one of the military ships and meet it's captain, who tells them that they have little choice but to flee and try to survive at this point. With them is a planet cracker. The captain tells Isaac and Carver that they're trying to take out as many Moons as possible to 1) give humanity more time to flee and 2) to stop the moons from following the last of humanity. They prepare plans to planet crack the Moon they're currently on.

      They hear a transmission of people being slaughtered by necromorphs from the planet cracker, and Isaac and Carver head to it to start it up. After fighting their way through to the power core, they start it up and start the process of cracking the moon. The beam reaches to it's core, but the planet cracker stops. The beam is then refracted by the being inside the moon, destrying the planet cracker. Isaac and Carver make it out last second on escape ships. They travel back to the remaining military ships. As the captain greets them, he is killed and turned by a necromorph skullspiderthingy. The changed captain starts to talk with Isaac and Carver. It is revealed that the thing talking through the now dead captain is the being within the moon:

      "You... cannot.. stop us... you fleshlings... are our sustanance.... our fodder.... it is.... your meaning of life... to be food... for higher... beings... you will.... you cannot... stop what we are... what we embody... all... will be... conssssssssuuuuuuumed"

      Carver shoots the skull. "Ain't stopped us before, ain't stopping us now"

      They take the military ship and set course for the rest of humanity's fleets, but before they can enter shockspace a living necromorph missile blasts the engines. The two fight through the ship, both necromorphs and deranged humans and make it to the engine room. As they start it back up, Isaac is pushed out of the ship by a hallucination of Rosetta:

      "I am immersed in you Isaac, I can feel you- I AM you completely. The fates have always had a plan for you. You don't think you've come this far without dying based purely on luck, did you?"

      As he is pulled into the brethren moon's core (through the gaping hole created by the planet cracker) Carver screams out his name. At this point, the story switches narrative viewpoint to Carver, who fights through the ship back to the control room. Along the way, he sees a hallucinations of Isaac mid-transformation to a necromorph. As he makes it back to the control room, he picks up a transmission from Isaac.

      Back down on the brother moon, Isaac finds himself deep inside of it, near it's core. A bright blue pulsating light entices Isaac to follow it. Fighting through Necromorphs, he reaches the core.

      There he meets the being. It speaks through Isaac to Isaac using his voice:

      "So the forerunner of the Human race has finally made it. I cannot count how many times I've been in this position. You, Isaac Clarke, have triamphed over Humanity. You have stepped on the skulls of your own to get here. To this fateful point. And what prize shall await the champion of a species? Certainly not death, that is a prize befitting the weak. We offer you, no, we demand you take a seat with us. You are here now, Isaac, for a reason. And that reason is convergence."

      There is the last boss fight within Isaac's mind. He travels throughout places from DS 1, 2 and 3, fighting through necromorphs and humans whilst the main goal is to chase the being through these places. At the end, he goes through a door to find himself in a perfectly white room with nothing but a mirror on one of the walls. He looks into the mirror and sees his skin start to fall off, his eyeballs popping and oozing out of his sockets, basically the most horrific transformation in the series. The room explodes with light (the room representing Isaac's body) and he bursts forth as an equal to the beings called the brethren moon.

      "You will learn your place" the being he fought says.

      "In time, you will adjust. Now go, out of my shell and into your own."

      He is flung out of the moon onto Earth, were he absorbs what's left of humanity that got left behind. Convergence occurs (all the while Carver watching through physical/psychic means) and Isaac becomes the brother moon made up of Earth.

      As Isaac struggles in his new core, flashbacks of all of his adventures and loved ones rush through his mind. He stops struggling, and a playback of Rosetta plays:

      "When the time of your transdence arrives, remember the love shared not only between human and human but the love shared between life and life."

      He lets out a scream and pushes his energy out, destroying his own necromorphs. The other moons make a psychic connection with Isaac, all panicking and yelling over each other. In the midst of the mental chaos, Isaac closes his eyes. It's revealed that the killcode given to Isaac by Rosetta (which was pulled from Isaac's DNA as he has been watched by the brethren moon who have been testing humanity to find a next of kin that have prepared a marker for their new brother) was a killcode for his marker.

      Queue final dramatic scene, eyes closed, everything gets quiet amongst the chaos:

      "I love you, Ellie"

      He opens his eyes and sets of the killcode while also overloading his own energy.

      Carver, psychically seeing this final act, enters shockspace and flees the blast.

      The blast, a combination of the marker's self-destruction and Isaac's fiery willpower, engulfs and destroys the remaining brethren moon of flesh.

      Carver's ship leaves shockspace and meets with the rest of humanity's fleet.

      A transmission from Ellie hails the ship:

      "Oh my god! Isaac, you're alive?!"

      Carver comes up on screen, dismayed:

      "No... he... he's gone. Along with Earth."

      She cries

      "But he stopped them. They're gone. They're all gone."

      She looks up, confused between triumph and the void in her heart.

      Queue credits.

      During the credits, a speech is given by the leader of the fleet:

      "We, humanity, have survived. Not only have we survived, we have won, we have TRIUMPHED against the natural progression of evolution. We have overcome the chain of command, we looked our demise in the eyes and we have showed it what we are capable of. Our home may be gone. The only place we have ever known to call home. But with our will and our strength, we will carry on! We will stare fate in the face and we will demand our sanctuary!"

      End scene of the rest of humanity's ships sailing through space with a sun "on the horizon". Unitology flags mark each ship, but unitology has been remade to fit not the brethren moon, but the very last collective of Humanity.

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    • Please don't post your poorly-written fanfic here

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    • I happen to like that fanfic...

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    • Poorly written?..

      Go suck a long one, dude.

      My "fanfic" is as valid as any other here.

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    • 99.243.63.19 wrote:
      Poorly written?..

      Go suck a long one, dude.

      My "fanfic" is as valid as any other here.

      You ever look at the DS fics on fanfiction.net?

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    • Well, why don't they just get as many people as they can off of Earth or whatever Earth Colony they run into along the way, store everyone in a big ass ship, and use a Planet Cracker on Earth and completely destroy it, sending pieces of Planet hurdling into the Moons and killing them. Then they just remain on the ship until they find somewhere else habitable. Seems like a pretty cool and well thought out ending to the series. I mean, its not the WORST idea. Certainly better than Mass Effect's ending. 

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    • Do you really think EarthGov is that smart? In case you forgot, most governments in such games are too selfish for that anyways. In such times of crisis, they're only concerned about saving themselves, because they think "if we die, there's no hope left for humanity because we're too smart to be considered expendable."

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    • There is one possibility that no one seems to have addressed: that Isaac and Carver, after "destroying" the moon over Tau Volantis actually BECAME it or more precisely, that their consciousnesses became the dominant parts of the almagamation that is the moon.  Although this at first seems far fetched, there is actually some evidence to support it.  We already know that the moons are comprised of all of the organic recombinant material converted from whatever has been killed in the marker's vicinity.  We may assume that consciousnesses are similarly absorbed and incorporated into a greater whole.  It is clear that from the beginning of "Awakening" reality is not exactly "stable."  Isaac and Carver (after battling the moon possibly thousands of feet above the planet) somehow awaken on the surface.  However, they initially appear within their own illusory realities, connected by a bathroom mirror.  This quickly shifts and we see them on the planet which now appears to be falling apart.  Isaac's words here are very important.  He says something along the lines of, "Are we dead?  Is this what necromorphs feel like?"  Perhaps from the very beginning of this chapter the two are already dead and have entered into the collective consciousness of all of the dead or absorbed beings within the moon's reach.  Perhaps by destroying the physical aspect of the moon the two were able to break its psychological hold over everything it consumed, resulting in a sort of psychic free-for-all among the consciousnesses it consumed.  We see increasing signs of this as the DLC continues...everyone around is experiencing vivid hallucinations and snapping back out of it.  Many of the Unitologists who are encountered are unable to move, stuck in a world inside their own minds.  This is very different from the hallucinations induced by the markers in previous instances of the series.  We also see that one man in particular (the "cult leader") seems, perhaps, to be in a state similar to Isaac and Carver.  He is vying for control over the remaining consciousnesses within the area.  Perhaps he is the only psychological force strong enough or able to maintain its individuality enough to offer resistance to Isaac and Carver.  This may also be why the ship's interior will be empty and then suddenly occupied by the "leader" and his acolytes during the sacrifice sections.  Perhaps by dominating the Unitologist leader and subduing all opposing influence, Isaac and Carver become the dominant psyches which control the power or "god" which was contained originally within the moon.  It's a bit obscure but it ties up every loose end including the heroes' seemingly impossible escape from death.  Perhaps the entirety of events after the moon's physical destruction were simply a metaphorical representation of psychic or metaphysical occurrences within the "convergence" of beings.  So maybe the new human-controlled Isaac/Carver "god" is now headed toward the remaining true and physical brethren moons to do battle or possibly infect their psyches.  Interesting, no?

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    • There is one possibility that no one seems to have addressed: that Isaac and carver, after "destroying" the moon over Tau Volantis actually BECAME it or more precisely, that their consciousnesses became the dominant parts of the amalgamation that is the moon.  Although this at first seems far fetched, there is actually some evidence to support it.  We already know that the moons are comprised of all of the organic recombinant material converted from whatever has been killed in the marker's vicinity.  We may assume that consciousnesses are similarly absorbed and incorporated into a greater whole.  It is clear that from the beginning of "Awakening" reality is not exactly "stable."  Isaac and Carver (after battling the moon possibly thousands of feet above the planet) somehow awaken on the surface.  However, they initially appear within their own illusory realities, connected by a bathroom mirror.  This quickly shifts and we see them on the planet which now appears to be falling apart.  Isaac's words here are very important.  He says something along the lines of, "Are we dead?  Is this what necromorphs feel like?"  Perhaps from the very beginning of this chapter the two are already dead and have entered into a collective consciousness composed of all of the dead or absorbed beings within the vicinity of the moon.  Perhaps by destroying the physical aspect of the moon the two were able to break its psychological hold over everything it consumed, resulting in a sort of psychic free-for-all among the consciousness that were a part of it.  We see increasing signs of this as the dLC continues...everyone around is experiencing vivid hallucinations and then snapping back to 'reality."  Many of the Unitologists who are encountered are unable to move, stuck in a world inside their own minds.  This is very different from the hallucinations induced by the markers in previous instances of the series.  We also see thatone man in particular (the 'cult leader') seems, perhaps, to be in a state similar to Isaac and Carver's.  He is vying for control over the remaining consciousnesses within the area.  Perhaps he is the only psychological force strong enough or able to maintain its individuality enough to offer resistance to isaac and Carver.  This may also be why the ship's interior will be empty and then suddenly occupied by the 'leader' and his acolytes during the sacrifice scenes.  Perhaps by dominating the Unitologist leader and subduing all opposing influence, Isaac and Carver become the dominant psyches which control the power or 'god' which was contained originally within the moon.  it's a bit obscure but it ties up every loose end including the hereoes' seemingly impossible escape from death.  Perhaps the entirety of events after the moon's physical destruction were simply a metaphorical representation of psychic or metaphysical occurrences within the "convergence" of beings.  So maybe the new human-controlled Isaac/Carver "god" is now headed toward the remaining true and physical brethren moons to do battle or possibly infect their psyches.  interesting, no?

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    • 98.254.48.147 wrote: There is one possibility that no one seems to have addressed: that Isaac and Carver, after "destroying" the moon over Tau Volantis actually BECAME it or more precisely, that their consciousnesses became the dominant parts of the almagamation that is the moon.  Although this at first seems far fetched, there is actually some evidence to support it.  We already know that the moons are comprised of all of the organic recombinant material converted from whatever has been killed in the marker's vicinity.  We may assume that consciousnesses are similarly absorbed and incorporated into a greater whole.  It is clear that from the beginning of "Awakening" reality is not exactly "stable."  Isaac and Carver (after battling the moon possibly thousands of feet above the planet) somehow awaken on the surface.  However, they initially appear within their own illusory realities, connected by a bathroom mirror.  This quickly shifts and we see them on the planet which now appears to be falling apart.  Isaac's words here are very important.  He says something along the lines of, "Are we dead?  Is this what necromorphs feel like?"  Perhaps from the very beginning of this chapter the two are already dead and have entered into the collective consciousness of all of the dead or absorbed beings within the moon's reach.  Perhaps by destroying the physical aspect of the moon the two were able to break its psychological hold over everything it consumed, resulting in a sort of psychic free-for-all among the consciousnesses it consumed.  We see increasing signs of this as the DLC continues...everyone around is experiencing vivid hallucinations and snapping back out of it.  Many of the Unitologists who are encountered are unable to move, stuck in a world inside their own minds.  This is very different from the hallucinations induced by the markers in previous instances of the series.  We also see that one man in particular (the "cult leader") seems, perhaps, to be in a state similar to Isaac and Carver.  He is vying for control over the remaining consciousnesses within the area.  Perhaps he is the only psychological force strong enough or able to maintain its individuality enough to offer resistance to Isaac and Carver.  This may also be why the ship's interior will be empty and then suddenly occupied by the "leader" and his acolytes during the sacrifice sections.  Perhaps by dominating the Unitologist leader and subduing all opposing influence, Isaac and Carver become the dominant psyches which control the power or "god" which was contained originally within the moon.  It's a bit obscure but it ties up every loose end including the heroes' seemingly impossible escape from death.  Perhaps the entirety of events after the moon's physical destruction were simply a metaphorical representation of psychic or metaphysical occurrences within the "convergence" of beings.  So maybe the new human-controlled Isaac/Carver "god" is now headed toward the remaining true and physical brethren moons to do battle or possibly infect their psyches.  Interesting, no?

      I can see it happening, not likely though

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    • DeltaLikesVideoGames wrote:
      After I finished playing awakened, I just am totally confused on were the series could possibly go. Now, since all the moons are awake, I don't think anyone can stop it. Isaac barely stopped the first Moon! So, I just don't know. Any idea's or thoughts?

      I think they could do it in a way so Isaac, Carver and Ellie find the original Black marker in the yucatan crater, where it was originally found and sank in by altman. They use the left over research and the knowledge they acquired on Tau Volantis to use Earth's black marker as a weapon to destroy the other markers within the brethren moons. Or they could travel aboard the Terra Nova (it's destruction wasn't confirmed, was it?) To pick up all markers on all human colonies, and use them along with earth's black marker to create a signal that blocks the signal from the moons to earth, allowing them to nuke the moons or use gravity tethers to push them in the sun.

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    • I dont see why the human race being fucked would necesarrily be seen as a cool thing. I like the idea of Issac connecting to the moons telepathically and fighting them in his mind through a marker. And then using planet crackers to pull the moons apart and throw them into the sun. And afterwards everyone realizes how horrible of an idea the unitology religion is and EarthGov realizes that the markers are horribly bad things. Maybe They find the original marker and use it to fight the bretheren moons. I mean, it was THE original marker. So maybe it has a stronger connection to the moons.

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    • I was always hoping they would make a prequel Dead Space 4 where they show what happened to the space marines who arrived on Tau Volantis and their eventual conversion.  The new kinds of Necromorphs and scattered audio logs always piqued my interest on the idea.

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    • I believe any direct confrontation would be pointless. Also, even if the Earth is doomed, the human race isn't. There's lots of colonies out there in space, so they can always rebuild.

      The path I'd choose to follow would be to first address the current situation of Issac and Carver. And also what happened to Ellie. I'd first get the team together and maybe have both Issac and Carver try to mentally connect to the moons and try to stop them, only to find out they can't be stopped. Not that way at least. But during that attempt Issac could somehow gain a glimpse into the necromoons network and determine their origin. Or at least part of it.

      After that we'd see Issac and Ellie heading to uncharted space while Carver would take another ship and would head to the collonies to warn as many people as he could.

      After that, I'd have Issac and Ellie go on a journey of origin. To track down the answers we've all been waiting for. What is the real purpose of the moons? Why send markers to create civilizations only to get them consummed and turned into the necromoons? Who created the markers in the first place? And are they still alive? Are they even part of this dimension or the DS universe?

      And through the answers we'd get a way to fight off and maybe even destroy the moons. All the while creating the stage that would open the series to new questions, new dangers, and new characters.

      Dead Space isn't dead. If anything there's still tons of potential. But it's got to be done right. We can't get another Dead Space 3 or the series might not survive. So I prefer they take their time with it and get it right, to having all hopes laid to waste.

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    • Can someone please close this thread? This thread is very old and quite frankly doesnt need to be talked about again. Visceral even says that they have no plans of making another dark souls for quite some time due to the large lack of sales then intended that Dead Space 3 took.

      Please, let us no longer talk about this chat on this thread. This should be archived since it started 3 years ago (Oh god its already been 3 years....)

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    • Hey there is a petition demanding a Dead space 4! 


      You can find the petition on change.org


      Just google Dead space 4 petition and you should find it on one of the search results!  

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    • 67.191.76.62 wrote:
      Hey here's another possibilty... maybe another alien species might come into play. It's not that far fetched, but it'll be a kind of cheap way to settle the score.

      I'm not so sure about that. I'd definitely like to see something like that, but then it'll be like almost every other Starcraft, Halo, or Warhammer game with species like that.

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