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  • Now, from what I see, the ONLY possible way that they can have a Dead Space 4 is if they use it to finish the franchise. Which means Issac (and Carver) find the TRUE source of the Markers, find out how to disable it, or kill the moons, etc., and then end it. Forever.

    Maybe it'll be better than 3?

    Maybe there won't be many Necromorphs... maybe the creator race...

    Maybe they'll both die.

    And hopefully, it will be good




    ... And Earth gets saved... kinda...

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    • Awakend make it look like the only chance for earth to survive is:

      Isaac&Carver:Journey to the middle of the moon.


      Or sacrifice the earth in order to destroy the marker menace. It would fit with DS grim setting.

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    • It'd be pretty sweet too if they made Poul Clarke have an appearance, since all his records are "classified", which can only mean one thing in the Dead Space universe.

      -There's always the possibiity that the Moons were only hallucinations, and the Terra Nova is actually about to crash into Earth's Moon; the Luna Colony (which was experienceing a Necromorph outbreak last time we saw it). Since EarthGov practically doesn't have much power anymore, I doubt they were able to supress the Marker and/or the thousands of Necros created when Danik destroyed the Marker Shroud.

      I'd like to think the Moons haven't arrived yet, and the ones the pair saw were just hallucinations and they were hallucinating the actual Moon was one of them as well.

      -So they basically crash land in the middle of an outbreak and have to get to Earth or something to warn everybody that the Moons are coming.

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    • Word

      at the end of DS3 it really seems to be the prelude for an end.

      btw anyone has the same feeling as me? that the Moons and things... it recalls Cthulhu mytho stuff a lot

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    • More like Mass Effect.

      Lovecraft is the father of eldrtich abominations; it is kind of hard to create anything similar without elements of his stories.

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    • Just because there's giant things attacking Earth doesn't make it like Mass Effect. Halo was around before ME and that had giant alien ships attacking beforehand. 

      Indeed, I think it's their tentacles that remind me of Cthulhu, since when we view one from the other side of the planet, it really did look like the head (if somewhat rounded) of Cthulhu. 

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    • 124.193.167.51 wrote:
      Word

      at the end of DS3 it really seems to be the prelude for an end.

      btw anyone has the same feeling as me? that the Moons and things... it recalls Cthulhu mytho stuff a lot

      i gotta agree, living moons, wtf man.... ive seen plenty of mythos sh*t so yea...

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    • DigitalUnBrEaK wrote:
      Just because there's giant things attacking Earth doesn't make it like Mass Effect. Halo was around before ME and that had giant alien ships attacking beforehand.

      Indeed, I think it's their tentacles that remind me of Cthulhu, since when we view one from the other side of the planet, it really did look like the head (if somewhat rounded) of Cthulhu.


      Lol, Halo. Like that crap had anything original. <--- don't care about fanboys

      ME and DS are from EA and both resident eldtrich abominations are tied to sentinent species.

      Both are called to action by said races interaction with particularly powerful technology. Both brainwash people into furthering their goals. Both replicate by merging together huge amounts of biomass of said creatures. I'll glady continue if anybody wants.

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    • Nobody cares, though. This is the Dead Space Wiki. Not the fucking Mass Erect Wiki.

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    • i think there is going to be a deadspace4 becouse the moons are alive and isaac and carver have to kill the moons to end the necromorphs forever and the the game is going to be awsome . deadspace is awsome.

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    • DigitalUnBrEaK wrote:
      Nobody cares, though. This is the Dead Space Wiki. Not the fucking Mass Erect Wiki.


      A Halo fanboi that hates ME, cool.

      Both are from EA, which raises certain questions.

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    • You are mistaken again, sir. Just because I used Halo as an example does not make me a "Halo fanboi" (boy). It's just the first thing that poppoed into my head when I thought Aliens attacking the Earth in a video game.

      That's another thing I'd like to point out. They both have ties with EA, so of course there'll be similar content. But it's pathetic trying to say "OOH DEAD SPACE COPIED MASS EFFECT BECAUSE IT HAD BIG ALIEN THINGS ATTACKING THE EARTH", that's just like the whole hysteria before DS3's release when everybody bitched about how it was supposedly a rip-off of Lost Planet.

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    • After what we saw at the DLC we can pretty much say that the Earth/human race, is F´up...so instead of going with balls to the wall galatic war (mass effect) route...

      what about a hide and seek type of gameplay...think about it...just like the walking dead show where the survivors must find suplies, health items, to SURVIVE, but at the same time, have the futuristic Dead Space science, where they are searching for a way to defeat the moons, wich are a constant TREAT to the player, by having then hunt you down every level...I think that would make the player feel claustrofobic, just like DS1 without even being indoors, because you would have to hide, protect yourself every single time.

      dont get the wrong idea, i dont mean to turn this into a grind bullsh*t, make it linear to the story, like gather food while your friends work on how to stop the moons for example...

      also the side missions...expand that real good...I mean, if its not necessary to the game, then make the player not want to to then haha, ex: hunter enconters on DS1, which is pretty possible to do, since Isaac and Carver are having visions again...

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    • 177.158.5.105 wrote:
      After what we saw at the DLC we can pretty much say that the Earth/human race, is F´up...so instead of going with balls to the wall galatic war (mass effect) route...

      what about a hide and seek type of gameplay...think about it...just like the walking dead show where the survivors must find suplies, health items, to SURVIVE, but at the same time, have the futuristic Dead Space science, where they are searching for a way to defeat the moons, wich are a constant TREAT to the player, by having then hunt you down every level...I think that would make the player feel claustrofobic, just like DS1 without even being indoors, because you would have to hide, protect yourself every single time.

      dont get the wrong idea, i dont mean to turn this into a grind bullsh*t, make it linear to the story, like gather food while your friends work on how to stop the moons for example...

      also the side missions...expand that real good...I mean, if its not necessary to the game, then make the player not want to to then haha, ex: hunter enconters on DS1, which is pretty possible to do, since Isaac and Carver are having visions again...


      A spin-off you that plays on the New Lunar Colonies during the outbreak *could* work fine.


      @DigitalUnBreak

      It's on an icy planet, because it's supposed to draw from The Thing, one of DS main influences. As a side effect of causulizing the game by mixing in more action, it became a bit similar to lost planet at first glance.

      Back to the ME thing: I did never say copy, it's just boring that two games came up with almost the same plot device.

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    • what the fuck you all angry about mass effect 3 to deadspace3 is it becouse the n7 suit maybe the people that made mass effect 3 told the people that made deadspace3 to add the n7 suit damn i mean the people that made deadspace3 told the people that made masseffect3 to add the n7 suit what the fuck is bad about it the only thing that could be bad is they copy with out asking . there is nonthing bad about it what is so bad about the n7 suit

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    • ^This comment.

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    • WOAH....slow down. Let's not talk about this yet.


      makes my head hurt.

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    • 69.251.57.102 wrote:
      what the fuck you all angry about mass effect 3 to deadspace3 is it becouse the n7 suit maybe the people that made mass effect 3 told the people that made deadspace3 to add the n7 suit damn i mean the people that made deadspace3 told the people that made masseffect3 to add the n7 suit what the fuck is bad about it the only thing that could be bad is they copy with out asking . there is nonthing bad about it what is so bad about the n7 suit


      Nobody's talking about a cameo suit. What's with all these people barking at everything? If you cannot write in a normal manner you might as well remain silent.


      They wrote themselves into a corner storywise. Biological spheres that reproduce by sending out anorganical monuments to initiate said reproduction and a horror setting that can only be continued by battling the local eldritch abominations.

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    • Doomspeaker wrote:
      DigitalUnBrEaK wrote:
      Nobody cares, though. This is the Dead Space Wiki. Not the fucking Mass Erect Wiki.

      A Halo fanboi that hates ME, cool.

      Both are from EA, which raises certain questions.


      You know, there are two types of Fanboys: those who praise their game to no end, and those who hate every other game but theirs.

      But this is not the place for either: this is the Dead Space wiki. We talk about Dead Space.


      And for the record, Halo, Dead Space, COD, and Mass Effect are all good franchises.

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    • 69.251.57.102 wrote:
      what the fuck you all angry about mass effect 3 to deadspace3 is it becouse the n7 suit maybe the people that made mass effect 3 told the people that made deadspace3 to add the n7 suit damn i mean the people that made deadspace3 told the people that made masseffect3 to add the n7 suit what the fuck is bad about it the only thing that could be bad is they copy with out asking . there is nonthing bad about it what is so bad about the n7 suit


      fuck...masseffect3...deadspace3...n7...deadspace3...masseffect3...n7...n7...fuck

      That's all I got from that.

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      • I have 11 swags
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    • This is the DEAD SPACE WIKI-the subject is DEAD SPACE,not Halo, not ME, or any others, all three games are great, but that discussion should be on the GAMER WIKI. This is DEAD SPACE. ISAAC CLARKE. not Master Chief, not Commander Shepard, CEC ENGINEER ISAAC CLARKE.

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    • stop talking about mass effect  and halo this is about deadspace not halo not mass effect just deadspace you just anger becouse of the n7 suit what is so bad bring in the n7 suit what the fuck is wrong with that and the people that made deadspace ask the people that made mass effect 3 to bring in the n7 suit for deadspace3 what the fuck is wrong with that stop talking about mass effect and halo is this about halo no is this about mass effect no stop fucking talking about mass effect and halo this is about deadspace

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    • For god's sake nobody is talking about that suit.

      Silence kiddo.

      There are uncanny similarites here so why not talk about them?

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    • then what the fuck you all angry about mass effect 3 to dead space 3 and why you all talking about it this is deadspace not fucking mass effect 3

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    • never mind all im saying is this is about deadspace and sorry for talking mean is just that this is about deadspace not mass effect im sorry

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    • deadspace4 is going to be awsome. deadspace is awsome

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    • ^Exactly my point. The only reason I used Halo was as an example.

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    • Whoa.


      That is all. :-D

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    • 69.251.57.102 wrote:
      never mind all im saying is this is about deadspace and sorry for talking mean is just that this is about deadspace not mass effect im sorry


      You need to just shut up in general. Raging like a moron on a game wiki, chill the fuck out dude. No one was "talking about  ME", we are simply comparing similarities, because well EA developed both ... who'd a fuckin thought. 

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    • IortizCEC wrote:
      69.251.57.102 wrote:
      never mind all im saying is this is about deadspace and sorry for talking mean is just that this is about deadspace not mass effect im sorry

      You need to just shut up in general. Raging like a moron on a game wiki, chill the fuck out dude. No one was "talking about  ME", we are simply comparing similarities, because well EA developed both ... who'd a fuckin thought. 


      They don't want to see that. No matter how much DS4 (if it will ever exist) will have to look like ME3 story wise, he won't try to understand


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    • Doomspeaker wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      69.251.57.102 wrote:
      never mind all im saying is this is about deadspace and sorry for talking mean is just that this is about deadspace not mass effect im sorry

      You need to just shut up in general. Raging like a moron on a game wiki, chill the fuck out dude. No one was "talking about  ME", we are simply comparing similarities, because well EA developed both ... who'd a fuckin thought. 


      They don't want to see that. No matter how much DS4 (if it will ever exist) will have to look like ME3 story wise, he won't try to understand


      Obvisouly.. *Sigh* =/

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    • 69.251.57.102 wrote:
      never mind all im saying is this is about deadspace and sorry for talking mean is just that this is about deadspace not mass effect im sorry


      God I hate fanboys (of bothtypes, as I said in my earlier post).

      Here, let me lay it down for you:

      Dead Space is a good series

      Halo is a good series

      Mass Effect is a good series

      NOW SHUT UP!

      There are very few stories that don't have some similarities to others; You could compare Dead Space 3: Awakened's ending to Halo, Mass Effect, Half Life, or pretty much any other sci-fi game with alien life.

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    • They are all equally comparable.. one game didnt spawn the creation of the next. Like Halo didnt spawn fuckin Dead space.. I mean come on. 

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    • IortizCEC wrote:
      They are all equally comparable.. one game didnt spawn the creation of the next. Like Halo didnt spawn fuckin Dead space.. I mean come on. 


      If you're refering to my earlier comment, I wasn't trying to say that any of those led to each other. If you weren't, sorry for wasting your time.

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    • Where'd that guy go?

      I miss him.

      He was fun.

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    • just follow the way awakened was...we got TRUE FRICKIN horror, action and suspense...

      Visceral proved they can do...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ???

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      They are all equally comparable.. one game didnt spawn the creation of the next. Like Halo didnt spawn fuckin Dead space.. I mean come on. 

      If you're refering to my earlier comment, I wasn't trying to say that any of those led to each other. If you weren't, sorry for wasting your time.

      You werent wasting my time, nothing against you Fraidy-Cat.. I was referring to the douche that was raging earlier... my bad =/

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    • IortizCEC wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      They are all equally comparable.. one game didnt spawn the creation of the next. Like Halo didnt spawn fuckin Dead space.. I mean come on. 

      If you're refering to my earlier comment, I wasn't trying to say that any of those led to each other. If you weren't, sorry for wasting your time.
      You werent wasting my time, nothing against you Fraidy-Cat.. I was referring to the douche that was raging earlier... my bad =/


      Nothing to apologize for. It was my misunderstanding.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      IortizCEC wrote:
      They are all equally comparable.. one game didnt spawn the creation of the next. Like Halo didnt spawn fuckin Dead space.. I mean come on. 

      If you're refering to my earlier comment, I wasn't trying to say that any of those led to each other. If you weren't, sorry for wasting your time.
      You werent wasting my time, nothing against you Fraidy-Cat.. I was referring to the douche that was raging earlier... my bad =/

      Nothing to apologize for. It was my misunderstanding.



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    • A dead space 4 sounds unlikely...DS may continue through DLCs...seeing as how awakened's ending was..

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    • The ending of Awakened may have just been a hallucination shared by both of them like in the beginning. If so, then there's no telling what the Dead Space team have planned for the next installment.

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    • Ha...


      I can't believe I just read all that.

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    • All the moons bunch and make the creator race

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    • wait is this about the page i wrote about dead space 4?

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    • Wow, this thread is a trip. I agree, Dead Space 4 is looking grim. And I've said this time and time again, the similarities to Mass Effect 3 are uncanny. But that one guy was right, a Dead Space on the moon would probably be the best thing.

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    • 177.158.0.165 wrote: just follow the way awakened was...we got TRUE FRICKIN horror, action and suspense...

      Visceral proved they can do...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ???

      Don't you remember how EA made them tone down the horror? Visceral would have filled DS3 with stuff like Awakened, but EA made it so that for the real scares, you'd need to pay extra.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      177.158.0.165 wrote: just follow the way awakened was...we got TRUE FRICKIN horror, action and suspense...

      Visceral proved they can do...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ???

      Don't you remember how EA made them tone down the horror? Visceral would have filled DS3 with stuff like Awakened, but EA made it so that for the real scares, you'd need to pay extra.

      they need to step it up seriously don't you think Awakend was better than the game itself?

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    • 120.28.127.117 wrote:

      they need to step it up seriously don't you think Awakend was better than the game itself?



      Totally true.

      Though i don't appreciate that much fighting the human ennemies of awakened compared to necro, their cult is some truly imba crazy stuff.

      DS3 had some interesting improvements, but it has gone down since DS2 and especially DS1 in my feelings.

      When i think again about DS1... Hurr... Dat atmosphere.

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    • You just used "hurr" very incorrectly

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    • Am I the only one who enjoyed DS2 more than the first one simply because of the aiming difficulty? Or does EVERYONE on this wiki like the first one better? Because every thread I see people saying "Why can't it be like Dead Space 1 again". It's making me scratch my head.

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    • DS2 was my favorite...though it was the first Dead Space I played.

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    • The first one you play, for any series, is often your favorite because it's completely new.

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    • yeah I playyed DS2 first and that was my most favorite game till The Last of Us came out pls make it like the 1st one I played it and enjoyed iit why cant it be like the 1st one (other than Issac not reacting like a robot)

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    • Rotomaniac wrote:
      Am I the only one who enjoyed DS2 more than the first one simply because of the aiming difficulty? Or does EVERYONE on this wiki like the first one better? Because every thread I see people saying "Why can't it be like Dead Space 1 again". It's making me scratch my head.

      YOU  are not the only one hope the ending like the Last of Us where it shows a dark side of the person and lies for the protection of someone 

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    • Dead Space 4 will be awesome, if we pray enough for it. Our collettive devotion will make this game wonderful and with the only plausible ending: the assimilation of the dying and decaying human race into the Divine. Praise the Marker, Unitology is the truth

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    • Altman be Praised

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    • Goddamn Unis are running the ship!

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote: Goddamn Unis are running the ship!

      How do you sleep at night, believing that there is no higher purpose for humanity? Please, be reasonable. This is just as scientific as it is religious. The Markers may not be from any god that we know, but they are the key to humanity's future.

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    • How do you sleep at night knowing your religion is based around becoming necromorphs?

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      How do you sleep at night knowing your religion is based around becoming necromorphs?


      It's called "ascendance to the divine", and it is a process that will turn our decaying mind and bodies in something bigger, better, nearer to the divine. It's the final point of evolution. I am sure that this dialog we are having now happened several times in history.

      "How do you sleep at night knowing that your religion is based around breathing air?"

      "How do you sleep at night knowing that your religion is based around becoming a mammal?"

      "How do you sleep at night knowing that your religion is based around leaving the trees?"

      "How do you sleep at night knowing that your religion is based around building cities?"

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    • Ah, Danik. I was wondering when you would show up.

      How can you sleep knowing the only beyond is to walk the earth as a gruesome and unthinking monster?

      How can you follow a religion when its "founder" didn't even believe in it? 

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Ah, Danik. I was wondering when you would show up.

      How can you sleep knowing the only beyond is to walk the earth as a gruesome and unthinking monster?

      How can you follow a religion when its "founder" didn't even believe in it? 

      My friend, this is the whole point. While the individual Necromorph may appear brutish and unthinking to the profane, the collective will and soul of the community has proved itself to be able to think and to feel. Its self-awareness is way better than the limited perception you feel while confined to the cage of your limited, frail human body.


      About our Prophet Altman, I do not know what you are talking about. His faith was so strong that he faced martyridom to spread the Truth. If you are talking about that blasphemous libel called "Dead space: Martyr", know that it's a jumble of lies concocted by the corrupt Earth government and that its heretical  author has been flagged for termination by the Circle. I will link some official Altman gospels to you, later.


      Praise Altman, Unitology is Truth.

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    • Ah, blind faith. The last fall back of the unimaginative.

      Why would the government release a book that makes them look just as much like monsters as the necromorphs themselves?

      You should also train your troops better before you attept any assassinations. Their combat proficiency is...embarasing.

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    • This couldn't be more distant from blind faith. Unlike the primitive religions that fell out of relevance in the 23rd century, Unitology has scientific proof. You and I have both seen that the Markers actually exist, unlike the false Messiahs and gods of past. The "necromorphs" are just as savage to us as the natives were to those who first colonized the American Sectors.

      They are but a transition from physical to spiritual, a strange in-between state purposed to punish those who walk not in the way of the Markers, and to spread glorious Convergence.

      The government is willing to do anything to discredit the truth, as long as they stay in power. They fear the Markers, because they know the truth behind them.

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    • Hmm....at this point I can't tell if you're just playing along of if you really believe that...


      And there is no scientific proof that convergance is good. Just that it exists.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Ah, blind faith. The last fall back of the unimaginative.

      Why would the government release a book that makes them look just as much like monsters as the necromorphs themselves?

      You should also train your troops better before you attept any assassinations. Their combat proficiency is...embarasing.

      My friend, this is a clear case of "flase flag", where the gov't accepted the damage in PR (not much, since their reputation was at a total low) to strike at the only counterbalance to their tirannic power. 

      About the quality of our enforcer, I must admit that we managed to attract a lot of suicidal idiots, useless for anything apart as cannon fodder. It's useless to waste money and time giving combat training to a frothing sucidal maniac with an hatred for humanity. By the way, military trainers cost so much money! 

      And there is no scientific proof that convergance is good. Just that it exists. Science cannot explain everything. Can you explain love with science? Compassion? Feelings? No, my son, there are many things you can just feel inside you and know that they are right. 

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    • Why wouldn't Convergence be a good thing? One mind, one body, one purpose. The ultimate peace. There will never be pain nor sorrow, no betrayal, no negativity.

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    • Right, because we'd cease to exist as inividuals. We'd be dead and necromorphs. I would rather live with the problems we have now than sucumb to that fate.

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    • How do you know what it is like in the afterlife? The "necromorphs ", like I said before, are only an intermediate stage before Convergence.

      Now, I know this goes against the normal doctrine, but in my denomination of Unitology, and in my personal thoughts, we don't believe in a literal binding of all minds. We believe that while our minds come together into one essence, they remain separate. Imagine an cosmic Elysium of consciousness, a grand sea of ideas, united yet separate.

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    • I would rather like to live knowing that somewhere there will be someone new that can create a better idea than myself, that they can be smarter than me. i would not like to live in a being that already has all the minds of one time but not of the future generation. therefore they will not be able to expand besides killing and converting new species into more of themself.

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    • And I would rather like to live knowing that unicorns will some day be real. I do not not think you realize the vastness of human consciousness. You make it sound like after Convergence, there will be no creativity or original thoughts.

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    • After convergance, there wouldn't be any thoughts at all.

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    • And why on Earth do you think that? Are you a clairvoyant who's seen the future?

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    • I dont think he has seen the future but it would make sence. Since all the minds of that planet are already collected then there will be no new thoughts just the ones that are in that being. It is like haveing an abortion. what  if that child were to be the future president that could make world peace.

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    • You're making it sound like the minds will stop thinking once they come together.

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    • yes because once they form the "Moon" they will bring life to that creature and that is the end of the person. after that it will be the creature and not the person.

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    • My sons, the sacred Convergence will bring consciousness to a new level, a level closer to the divine where everybody shares his thoughts and feelings. Remember, "your body now, our body tomorrow, one body forever". This is why the holy Necromorphs do not fear death: they know that their consciousness will survive in the collective and regard their bodies as expendable. We are talking about evolution, probably on par of the experience of those monkeys who decided to climb down the trees.


      Unitology is Evolution. You can reject evolution, but then you must not complain if those who had the courage to evolve will regard you as a pet or a wild animal, later.

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    • AltmanBePraised wrote:
      My sons, the sacred Convergence will bring consciousness to a new level, a level closer to the divine where everybody shares his thoughts and feelings. Remember, "your body now, our body tomorrow, one body forever". This is why the holy Necromorphs do not fear death: they know that their consciousness will survive in the collective and regard their bodies as expendable. We are talking about evolution, probably on par of the experience of those monkeys who decided to climb down the trees.


      Unitology is Evolution. You can reject evolution, but then you must not complain if those who had the courage to evolve will regard you as a pet or a wild animal, later.

      I think we know the REAL Unitologists You! you just sound and explain like one

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    • Um, of course he's a Unitologist?

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    • once they take your body it is never yours anymore it is theres after that and the mind is theres too, they will enslave you and force you to do things you dont want to do.

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    • Well that's just plain wrong. Once you become a necromorph, you will be enlightened to the Truth. You will understand that self-sacrifice is necessary for a greater good.

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    • Or cease to think...we don't know what would actually happen.

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    • There's no way to know 100% for sure, this is why agnostics exist.

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    • The mind can't be alive for one reason you can shoot it off and the necromorph is still alive so mind theories are wrong Heres's a theory


      The marker controls the necromorph like a puppet but when it dies the string comes offor somethin' like that

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    • You're not thinking in the metaphysical. Also, necromorphs are impossible to kill. You can only dismember and immobilize them.

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    • Then why does a slasher stop moving if I dismember one arm and one leg. Shouldn't it keep trying?

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    • i think the only way for the franchise to continue is to spin off. it is simply far from plausible that isaac and carver could save earth in such a short notice. if the saga continues, i think that they will put the game several decades after the events of 3, when the few remaining humans scattered themselves across the galaxy and colonized, hoping to stay ahead of the moons.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      You're not thinking in the metaphysical. Also, necromorphs are impossible to kill. You can only dismember and immobilize them.


      If they were impossible to kill, the game would be pointless. Why shoot it with guns when it's still be alive?....Oh wait, they have something that doesn't die? And the franchise worked?...Niiice. 


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    • Observer of chat rooms wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      You're not thinking in the metaphysical. Also, necromorphs are impossible to kill. You can only dismember and immobilize them.


      If they were impossible to kill, the game would be pointless. Why shoot it with guns when it's still be alive?....Oh wait, they have something that doesn't die? And the franchise worked?...Niiice. 


      Necromorphs don't ever die according to the story. You just cut them apart until they physically can't move. Have you not played the game or something? Bullets aren't supposed to work really. Only heavy physical trauma stops them. But nothing can truly kill them.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Then why does a slasher stop moving if I dismember one arm and one leg. Shouldn't it keep trying?


      My son, try to read the fighting scenes on the books. The holy necromorphs do not die, they just become too damaged to function. Their bodies get absorbed by the holy Corruption, later.

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    • Ok, breaking the RP right now. Who else agrees that necromorphs should have been much more powerful, and less numerous? All good horror games are like that, where each enemy is a challenge, and you never know when the next one is going to show up. Necromorphs should have never died in-game, continuing to write and growl on the ground after being cut apart. If the game took a more pure horror direction, it would be a lot better IMHO.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Ok, breaking the RP right now. Who else agrees that necromorphs should have been much more powerful, and less numerous? All good horror games are like that, where each enemy is a challenge, and you never know when the next one is going to show up. Necromorphs should have never died in-game, continuing to write and growl on the ground after being cut apart. If the game took a more pure horror direction, it would be a lot better IMHO.


      Good idea, but too CPU-intensive and too confusing on the eye. Besides that, those jews at EA are more interested in making money than in making a genuine horror game. 

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    • Would it really be that CPU-intensive to have less enemies? I don't see how it'd be confusing-just cut them apart until they can't move. I guess they would stop writing after a while, if that's what you mean. But then they could twitch or whatever if you get too close or something. Just saiyan.

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    • I'd be fine with any spinoff type game (not featuring Issac), like extraction if the ds team doesnt want to end the series. There seems to be alot of possibilities out there for it, on lunar colonies, maybe something on the unitologist mosaleum ships, or maybe even something from when the red  marker (3A marker) was first put on Aegis? 

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    • A Unitologist Mausoleum ship would be great, and it could be a little like the Mobile game, except instead of quickly dropping her beliefs when shit goes down, the main character slowly loses faith as shit goes down.

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    • Of course, it'd be hard to make it not a huge rip-off of those two (three?) chapters from Dead Space 2.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      A Unitologist Mausoleum ship would be great, and it could be a little like the Mobile game, except instead of quickly dropping her beliefs when shit goes down, the main character slowly loses faith as shit goes down.



      HERESY!

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    • Honestly, I was half-hoping for DS3 to have a big twist where it's revealed that the Unitologists are actually right about everything.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Honestly, I was half-hoping for DS3 to have a big twist where it's revealed that the Unitologists are actually right about everything.


      It would be interesting, but it would make every single game pointless and completely ruin the plot.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Honestly, I was half-hoping for DS3 to have a big twist where it's revealed that the Unitologists are actually right about everything.

      It would be interesting, but it would make every single game pointless and completely ruin the plot.


      I'm pretty sure the plot died with Dead Space 3. Just saying

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    • At this point having Isaac being rescued by the Waffen SS using silly string and two-by-fours tied to anacondas while skateboarding through Rainbow Road would be a better plot point than anything in Dead Space 3.

      You know what, maybe I'm being to cynical there.

      The point is, my expectations for Dead Space 4 are noticably lower than my expectations for Dead Space 3, probably because I don't want my heart to feel the crushing burden of disappointment Dead Space 3 threw on me by half way through.

      Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna play a marathon of better games and you're all invited to join me.

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      At this point having Isaac being rescued by the Waffen SS using silly string and two-by-fours tied to anacondas while skateboarding through Rainbow Road would be a better plot point than anything in Dead Space 3.

      You know what, maybe I'm being to cynical there.

      The point is, my expectations for Dead Space 4 are noticably lower than my expectations for Dead Space 3, probably because I don't want my heart to feel the crushing burden of disappointment Dead Space 3 threw on me by half way through.

      Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna play a marathon of better games and you're all invited to join me.


      I felt the same way when i finished the third. It wasnt just that i disliked the plot, but to me it seemed not really like it fit the feel of the dead space series. However i have hope that the next ds game will be better since mixing all the actiony shit into it wasnt well recieved.


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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Honestly, I was half-hoping for DS3 to have a big twist where it's revealed that the Unitologists are actually right about everything.

      It would be interesting, but it would make every single game pointless and completely ruin the plot.

      I'm pretty sure the plot died with Dead Space 3. Just saying


      I meant it would destroy the plot of Dead Space 1 and 2, which actually had respectible plots.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Honestly, I was half-hoping for DS3 to have a big twist where it's revealed that the Unitologists are actually right about everything.

      It would be interesting, but it would make every single game pointless and completely ruin the plot.

      I'm pretty sure the plot died with Dead Space 3. Just saying

      I meant it would destroy the plot of Dead Space 1 and 2, which actually had respectible plots.


      Ah, I see.

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    • Yeah, I kinda want to hope that Dead Space 3 turns out to all be a dream.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Yeah, I kinda want to hope that Dead Space 3 turns out to all be a dream.

      be honest though if they pulled some crap like that in a 4th game would you really just go along with it?

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    • Death is only theBeginning wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Yeah, I kinda want to hope that Dead Space 3 turns out to all be a dream.
      be honest though if they pulled some crap like that in a 4th game would you really just go along with it?


      Having it at least implied that EA admits that they screwed up?

      Hell yes, I'd go with it!

      Eh, who am I kidding? They wouldn't admit to anything. They'd defend a Holocaust simulator if they made it.

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    • I'd go with it, if only DS4 was a true survival-horror game.

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    • I'm imagining Isaac crashed onto one of the moon but somehow managed to go to earth, and "shockspace" (shockspace? shockwave? i forgot the name of which they use to quickly move between places in space) to somewhere else and lure the moons there?

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    • Ry4nmaster wrote:
      I'm imagining Isaac crashed onto one of the moon but somehow managed to go to earth, and "shockspace" (shockspace? shockwave? i forgot the name of which they use to quickly move between places in space) to somewhere else and lure the moons there?


      It's just called "Shock" or "Shocking in" I do believe.

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    • The engines they use are called shock-point drives. The terms for using them are shocking in and out. I don't know if it's called "shock space"

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    • yes the shock pointdrives  are used on all most all ships fit for deep space travel or long term space exposher but, ry4master all remaing ships are disadeled or destroyed so getting of the moon whill be slim to impossible noting that the ship they came in hade only impluse but could be usedto make it to the luna coloine but its hightly unlikey plus the other ship was guttted. but they could be rescued by an other ship or even better ellie. the frist optinon is that the ship coming to pick the to up are earth gov emplyes or unitologist tacking them to earth to take them prisoner (earth gov) or sacrifor something (unitologist)         

      i love the dead space and i whill contine on that path for ever even thought im only 14teen i instently feel in love whit the sage for the fist time the2008 trailer scared the shit out of me to the eagely awating awakened to come out im not saying dead space is the best gme ever all im saying is that its a good game and that im hoked     also sorry for the horreble speling 

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    • exposher disadeled coloine hightly optinon emplyes sacrifor

      There is no excuse for not knowing basic spelling. Learn english before using english websites.

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    • DigitalUnBrEaK wrote: You are mistaken again, sir. Just because I used Halo as an example does not make me a "Halo fanboi" (boy). It's just the first thing that poppoed into my head when I thought Aliens attacking the Earth in a video game.

      That's another thing I'd like to point out. They both have ties with EA, so of course there'll be similar content. But it's pathetic trying to say "OOH DEAD SPACE COPIED MASS EFFECT BECAUSE IT HAD BIG ALIEN THINGS ATTACKING THE EARTH", that's just like the whole hysteria before DS3's release when everybody bitched about how it was supposedly a rip-off of Lost Planet.

       1) http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/02/l-ron-altman-why-dead-space-2-is-a-direct-attack-on-scientology/
       2) Some kind of predatory proto extraterrestrial appliance/device/memorial/board/plate with inscriptions on it (or without) - Space Odyssey 2001 (1968 Stanley Kubrick).
      
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    • But the Brother Moons ARE a rip-off of the Reapers.

      Every couple million years or so, they consume entire civilizations and create a new member while doing so. They also both indoctrinate people and mutate undead monstrosities.

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    • And the Hive Mind concept (all of them gathering together to form one central intelligence) is a pretty direct ripoff of Halo's Flood (the Gravemind) and honestly this has also been done on countless horror movies. Can they really come up with something new in a world where pretty much every zombie concept has been done to death?

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    • Well, the original Hive Mind in DS1 wasn't THAT much of a rip-off, because it was just a unifying force between necromorphs, and not the evil genius of the Gravemind, or the Zerg, or whatever. But then the Brother Moons came out and made everything cliched.

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    • Just a note to the Halo fan trying to claim that Dead Space is ripping off Halo, The hive mind existed in Sci-fi long before Halo, ever heard of the Borg, or the Mysterons, and it exists in real life in the form of bee hives.

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    • Undead bees don't all join together to form one central intelligence though, what I'm trying to say is that it was already very clicheed and it did rip off a lot of movies, like Event Horizon, The Thing, and many others. I'm not saying this is a problem, I'm just stating that it's pretty hard to come up with new zombie ideas in an age where the zombie genre has been done to death. The Moons concept was at least somewhat original, even though it was very similar to the Reapers.

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    • Well i mean there are a lot of good points here, my thoughts are, the Necromorphs ARE the creator race, there like a hive mind society that discovered cold fusion. Rather than a star wars scenario popping up with lightsabers and warp drives, they just found a way to absorb all lesser intelligences into there ever growing collective which is INFINITELY powerful on account of the cold fusion. The necromorphs are basically preserving the survival of there species through ABSOLUTE and TOTAL domination. The reason why man hasnt discovered other life in the galaxy is because they already joined the necromorphs. I think the "positive" outcome of dead space 4 is Isaac and Carver unlock how to safely use necromorph technology, earth is wiped from EXISTENCE, and as they said there is a master "Marker Signal" One way or another they turn off that signal, KILL ALL THE NECROMORPHS, and then they manager to rebuild on the ruins of earth. I bet you a nickel Carver sacrifices himself, and they aim for the whole Isaac and Elle are the new Adam and Ever. Plus to it would be kinda cool if mankind revered Isaac Clarke as the new "Prophet" (Micheal Altman)

      What im hoping to see to is if they add some dlc or in game content where as you get to play through Micheal Altmans Journey with the first marker, and maybe play a little more backstory into the SCAF like how they got word of Tau Volantis and maybe get to play a little more with Serrano and the Guys.

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    • What does cold fusion have to do with anything, at all? Sorry, it just seems incredibly random.

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    • that adam and eve part actually makes sense, though i don't think carver will sacrifice himself

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    • some stuff about lexine weller after dead space2 severed.

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    • 218.254.35.209 wrote: some stuff about lexine weller after dead space2 severed.

      That would be nice

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    • I'm predicting that in Dead Space 4 you have to go back in time with a time machine that the survivors of the moon invasion built to help altman so he won't die to those guys who made altman a 'martyr' to undo the future and you'll be ble to use guns like AK-47s or some modern guns and then have like a grenade launcher that fires mini-nuclear ICBMs. 

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    • Einsteinium99
      Einsteinium99 removed this reply because:
      Becuz
      18:02, August 31, 2013
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      That ain't prediction, that's guessing.

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    • God who even gives a fucking shit about what god damn weapons we have to use, it's the story, not the combat. If you're going to say something like that about it, try to not make half of it about 'the weapons you'd use'

      Shit

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    • Actually, combat is more important than story, you imbecile.

      Gameplay is ALWAYS more important than story.

      Know why? Because it's a fucking video game, not a movie.

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    • 222.127.174.6 wrote:
      I'm predicting that in Dead Space 4 you have to go back in time with a time machine that the survivors of the moon invasion built to help altman so he won't die to those guys who made altman a 'martyr' to undo the future and you'll be ble to use guns like AK-47s or some modern guns and then have like a grenade launcher that fires mini-nuclear ICBMs. 


      You do understand that the entire point of Dead Space's combat system was to be unique and not just another "aim for the head" zombie shooter.

      And seriously. Mini-nuclear ICBMs? What the fuck are you taking about?

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    • It's a joke. How dense are you?

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      It's a joke. How dense are you?


      Frankly it's hard to tell with the online community. Half are dumber than rocks and the other half are jerks.

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    • I just finished Dead Space (1), and was looking into the series before I start Dead Space 2. This thread has been enjoyable to read, and I find it hilarious that "A Wiki Contributor" continues to post these inane, unanswered, un-asked for statements about nothing.


      God Bless

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    • Oh my, I turned out to be A Wikia contributor.

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    • 98.198.35.3 wrote: I just finished Dead Space (1), and was looking into the series before I start Dead Space 2. This thread has been enjoyable to read, and I find it hilarious that "A Wiki Contributor" continues to post these inane, unanswered, un-asked for statements about nothing.

      God Bless

      They're jokes.

      Like, they're poking fun at how Dead Space is turning into a stereotypical shooter.

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    • 218.254.35.209 wrote:
      some stuff about lexine weller after dead space2 severed.


      That's another thing.  Severed was only released for 360 and PS3, but not PC.  So, is it even Canon?

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    • Of course it's canon. Are PC players really that egocentric to believe that if it's not on their system, it doesn't count? Dead Space Martyr isn't even a video game, and it's canon.

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    • It's not PC gamers that are like that. I'm a PC gamer and I know it was just their laziness that caused that. It's called this specific thing; an 'idiot'. They're everywhere on the internet. Especially on forums and 4chan.

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    • Jesus, can we have a friendly discussion here

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    • The Mass Effect comparison rang a bell with me because of the amount of similarities between DS3 Awakening and ME2 Arrival. A Unitologist necro says something about perfection through ascension, can't find the full quote but it's an obvious Harbinger rip-off.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Of course it's canon. Are PC players really that egocentric to believe that if it's not on their system, it doesn't count? Dead Space Martyr isn't even a video game, and it's canon.


      Einsteinium, why do you always jump to the worst assumption? Or are you just trying to stir the pot?

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    • I don't like stagnant soup

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      I don't like stagnant soup


      hue hue hue


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    • 90.217.1.142 wrote:
      The Mass Effect comparison rang a bell with me because of the amount of similarities between DS3 Awakening and ME2 Arrival. A Unitologist necro says something about perfection through ascension, can't find the full quote but it's an obvious Harbinger rip-off.


      "We are your salvation through destruction"

      "We are the Harbinger of your perfection"

      "We are your genetic destiny"

      "We are the Harbinger of your destiny"


      Those do sound ominously similar in meaning to a lot of things said in Awakened

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    • But seriously, the Moons are so BORING. Once I realized what they were, I was all like "okay."

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    • Same here, but really, they didn't have much else. I would've hated if the machine actually was the source of the markers. And to be honest, while executed poorly, it is incredibly obvious and clear that they had the idea for the Moons since before Dead Space 1 even came out.

      "Make us whole"

      DS1 logs stating Marker A3 (I can't remember but I know it was implied by it's name that there were more)

      And a bunch of other things that I can't think of right now because I'm doing an assignment as I type but there were so many clues to something akin to the moons that we only now realise.

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    • ACTUALLY, I have a strong feeling that they DIDN'T know what "Make us Whole" meant until much later.

      They created an ambiguous idea that they later completed in DS3.

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    • Maybe. Maybe not. We'd have to ask the Dev team for any real answer, but if you're right, we'll never know, and if I'm right, the question will stagnate, unfortunately.

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    • And now I'm starting to question what the hell was the point of the Hive-Mind if it was useless.... they don't need a 'signal booster' (Santos said that's what their purposes are) when the Marker is THAT close to the Necromorphs...

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    • Well I believe that Aegis VII was an anomaly to the whole cycle.

      The researchers altered the Marker when they built the pedestal, which isn't part of the Marker's design.

      Who knows what else they did to it.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      I don't like stagnant soup


      I gotta give you props for that one.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Of course it's canon. Are PC players really that egocentric to believe that if it's not on their system, it doesn't count? Dead Space Martyr isn't even a video game, and it's canon.

      Einsteinium, why do you always jump to the worst assumption? Or are you just trying to stir the pot?


      It's not about the ego and such.  To be canon, it would require all 3 platforms.  Awakened was on 360, PS3, and PC, which confirmed it's canon.

      Severed wasn't on PC, which means PC players wouldn't know it existed, so they wouldn't know of the story at all.

      Now, you can argue that Extraction initially only on Wii, but that was a PREQUEL to DS1.

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    • What does it being a prequel matter?

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    • you know its kindov interesting, because they allready have the ability to destroy the moons with the planet crackers like the ishimura. it would be super hard im sure but ripping a planet apart isnt without the realm of possibility in the DS universe. Since DS3 follows In the Mountains of Madness pretty well, its not a stretch to think that the moon is like a shoggoth. which might mean that the origin of the markers is something even bigger and more terrible like something cthluhu esque or maybe something like Azothoth.

      I think in material the DS games have alot of really cool places they could go.

      also they should throw lexine back in somewhere, anybody know what happened to her?

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      What does it being a prequel matter?

      Because at least we get to see its beginnings.

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    • Irrelevant to it being canon or not.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Irrelevant to it being canon or not.

      Maybe not, but at least it was good to see how the colony went psycho and such.

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    • But that has nothing to do with the initial topic.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      But that has nothing to do with the initial topic.

      Not entirely.  You don't know if the next Dead Space game will be in chronological order or not.

      For example, after Dead Space 1, Visceral proceeded to make Dead Space Extraction, which took place BEFORE the events of Dead Space 1.

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    • No. The next one will be a sequel. They don't release full games on the major consoles (PS3, XBOX, and PC) unless it's in the actual saga for Issac Clarke, aside from Ignition, but that wasn't even a game, that was a animated comic. It's going to be Dead Space 4 next, and it's going to pick off straight after where Awakened ended. 

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    • Not necessarily; it's VERY common for there to be gaps in the story between trilogies.

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    • Well, yeah. But you are forgetting that they have never once in the entirety of Dead Space said that it was going to be a trilogy for the main story. Not once. Even though it should've been,

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    • Rotomaniac wrote:
      Well, yeah. But you are forgetting that they have never once in the entirety of Dead Space said that it was going to be a trilogy for the main story. Not once. Even though it should've been,


      The problem was that Visceral had said that the Dead Space series with Issac was intended to be a trilogy.

      I'm not even sure WHAT they've got planned once they start thinking up a story for Dead Space 4.

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    • Planet Crackers ripping the moons apart.

      Moons emitting a signal that leads you to their planet of origin, and you find the remnants or maybe even survivors of the race that created the markers for whatever life-extension or warfare they did.

      Finding Poul Clarke and using some kind of weapon or stasis machine or some random shit on the moons.


      There are a few viable options (technically 2) that could be used for Dead Space 4. Maybe even both of them. I mean why the fuck not. You'd get to pull apart a fucking moon with a planet-cracker ship

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    • Why not? Because that would be like a space simulator RTS, not a horror game. It would be like a parody.

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    • Rotomaniac wrote:
      Planet Crackers ripping the moons apart.

      Moons emitting a signal that leads you to their planet of origin, and you find the remnants or maybe even survivors of the race that created the markers for whatever life-extension or warfare they did.

      Finding Poul Clarke and using some kind of weapon or stasis machine or some random shit on the moons.


      There are a few viable options (technically 2) that could be used for Dead Space 4. Maybe even both of them. I mean why the fuck not. You'd get to pull apart a fucking moon with a planet-cracker ship

      You really think the moons would be dumb enough to let a planetcracker ship try that?

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    • Well EA have fucked Visceral into the ground with it. They have to do something. Anything. At least I'm trying to think of ideas that could work.

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    • Rotomaniac wrote:
      Well EA have fucked Visceral into the ground with it. They have to do something. Anything. At least I'm trying to think of ideas that could work.


      Which is more than what I can say for EA

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Why not? Because that would be like a space simulator RTS, not a horror game. It would be like a parody.


      Are you seriously arguing against a game that let's you use a space ship to crack open a zombie planet? I would actually like that because it wouldn't seem like a retcon, seeing as the Planet Cracker has existed since Dead Space 1. And it's not like the whole game would be planet cracking. If the final puzzle was manuvering the ship into place, I'd be okay with that.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Why not? Because that would be like a space simulator RTS, not a horror game. It would be like a parody.

      Are you seriously arguing against a game that let's you use a space ship to crack open a zombie planet? I would actually like that because it wouldn't seem like a retcon, seeing as the Planet Cracker has existed since Dead Space 1. And it's not like the whole game would be planet cracking. If the final puzzle was manuvering the ship into place, I'd be okay with that.


      Yeah well given the moon invasion at the end of Awakened, I doubt there will be any ships to spare for that.

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    • Necromorphs don't attack infrastructure, silly c:

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    • They could if they wanted to, silly c:

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    • But they never have in the past because they've never perceived them as any threat. And they most likely never will. To be honest, the only time they've caused collateral damage in the past is when Ellie and Stross are trying to escape from the Solar Collector Dish and they were destroying everything around them. The Brethren Moons will never bother seeing Planet Crackers as a real threat. Silly c:

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    • Well that's because the machines never actually were a threat. The Brother Moons are intelligent, they'd be stupid to not expect or recognize some form of resistance.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Well that's because the machines never actually were a threat. The Brother Moons are intelligent, they'd be stupid to not expect or recognize some form of resistance.


      This could be see in the game at the Coring Platform.  When Issac and Carver were trying to shut the drill down, you can use the force gun to keep pushing the Wasters right into the drill and let the drill do the dirty work for them.

      The Wasters didn't know the drill was a threat because they're not sentient.

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    • Yeah, but they also weren't under the direct control of the Moon.

      Individual necromorphs may be dumb, but the Moons certainly aren't.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Yeah, but they also weren't under the direct control of the Moon.

      Individual necromorphs may be dumb, but the Moons certainly aren't.


      Well, we DID see the occasional smart necromorphs.  In the case of the snowbeast, it at least understood when to retreat when it was badly weakened.

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    • Why don't we just add all our ideas together? A survival based game on the moon, which revolves around surviving long enough to find a way to destroy the Necros, which lies on the homeworld of the markers, where Poul Clarke is?

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    • 90.200.72.62 wrote:
      Why don't we just add all our ideas together? A survival based game on the moon, which revolves around surviving long enough to find a way to destroy the Necros, which lies on the homeworld of the markers, where Poul Clarke is?


      Assuming there even IS a marker homeworld

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    • The only way to stop the Brother Moons would be to somehow use the thing that started it all on Earth: The Black Marker, the first marker to ever come in contact with Earth. That may possess the secrets to defeating them. The moon is already lost due to the Lunar colony infestation, though the marker there may have some use. Since the Brother Moons are a telepathic species, a form of dangerous psychic feedback from the markers may be able to  destroy them, especially since they are gathered at once.

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote:
      The only way to stop the Brother Moons would be to somehow use the thing that started it all on Earth: The Black Marker, the first marker to ever come in contact with Earth. That may possess the secrets to defeating them. The moon is already lost due to the Lunar colony infestation, though the marker there may have some use. Since the Brother Moons are a telepathic species, a form of dangerous psychic feedback from the markers may be able to  destroy them, especially since they are gathered at once.


      You'd think to stop the Brother Moons would be to know how the first one was made, and go from there.

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote: The only way to stop the Brother Moons would be to somehow use the thing that started it all on Earth: The Black Marker, the first marker to ever come in contact with Earth. That may possess the secrets to defeating them. The moon is already lost due to the Lunar colony infestation, though the marker there may have some use. Since the Brother Moons are a telepathic species, a form of dangerous psychic feedback from the markers may be able to  destroy them, especially since they are gathered at once.

      Nah, all Markers are more or less identical.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      Consus, the Erudite God wrote: The only way to stop the Brother Moons would be to somehow use the thing that started it all on Earth: The Black Marker, the first marker to ever come in contact with Earth. That may possess the secrets to defeating them. The moon is already lost due to the Lunar colony infestation, though the marker there may have some use. Since the Brother Moons are a telepathic species, a form of dangerous psychic feedback from the markers may be able to  destroy them, especially since they are gathered at once.

      Nah, all Markers are more or less identical.

      More or less.  But according to Dead Space Liberation, the Tau Volantis moon's signal was the Master signal.

      That implies that the markers broadcast SIMILAR signals, not IDENTICAL signals.

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    • Really? Well, I am stumped them. I don't know what else they can do since the master signal is gone. If all the all Markers are more or less identical or trasmit similar as opposed to identical signals, then I am truly dumbfounded. Unless, Isaac can somehow alter the signals of the Earth and Moon-based markers to cause some sort of damage to the telepathic relay of the Brother Moons. Though given the situation, it seems like a longshot.

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    • Wouldn't it mean to kill the black marker on Earth?

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    • Most likely yes, or at least altering the signal it gives off.

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote:
      Really? Well, I am stumped them. I don't know what else they can do since the master signal is gone. If all the all Markers are more or less identical or trasmit similar as opposed to identical signals, then I am truly dumbfounded. Unless, Isaac can somehow alter the signals of the Earth and Moon-based markers to cause some sort of damage to the telepathic relay of the Brother Moons. Though given the situation, it seems like a longshot.


      You forget there's more than ONE Brethren Moon.  That means there's more than ONE master signal, hence why in the DLC when the other Moons awakened, the necromorph infection continues.

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    • I did not forget anything. I meant a signal that can act as a sort o telepathic surge towards the brother moons. More of a dangerous feedback than defined signal. Like a Psionic EMP.

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote:
      I did not forget anything. I meant a signal that can act as a sort o telepathic surge towards the brother moons. More of a dangerous feedback than defined signal. Like a Psionic EMP.


      Well that's just it.  We don't know of all the moons, which one stands out differently than the rest.

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    • Hmmm, due to Isaac's special contact with the Marker, do you think the makers of the game could make it so he would be able to understand which one stands out differently?

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote:
      Hmmm, due to Isaac's special contact with the Marker, do you think the makers of the game could make it so he would be able to understand which one stands out differently?


      I'm not sure he's been exposed to enough to know THAT yet.  You have to remember there's alien markers, and then there's man made markers.  That, along with the ones found on Tau Volantis, the man made markers by the aliens (as they replicated the markers as well).

      All in all, we're talking billions of markers here.  Trying to find out that stands out WAY differently than the others isn't exactly easy.

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    • Not impossible either. Plus who said we are talking about billions of markers? Not me. Not the game series. No one knows how many the alien species replicated.

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote: Not impossible either. Plus who said we are talking about billions of markers? Not me. Not the game series. No one knows how many the alien species replicated.

      Be that as it may, given the number of markers we've seen on the way to the Rosetta lab, and then underground...

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    • Still no proof or even relating to billions in quantity. Maybe hundreds but not billions.

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    • A lot

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    • Consus, the Erudite God wrote:
      Still no proof or even relating to billions in quantity. Maybe hundreds but not billions.

      Well, according to the logs by Dr. Serrano, it implied that the alien population had to be in the trillions.

      I guess it depends on their energy requirements and such or something...

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    • While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld


      Assuming Tau Volantis is NOT the aliens' homeworld...

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    • 72.197.194.3 wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld

      Assuming Tau Volantis is NOT the aliens' homeworld...

      have you even played the game there is an entire iscca marker hullcaination clip in DS3 where isacc says that Tau Volantis is not the marker home world have you even played and or beaten the game dumbass

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    • 72.197.194.3 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld


      Assuming Tau Volantis is NOT the aliens' homeworld...

      Dude what? Are you saying that I'm implying that Tau Volantis isn't their homeworld?

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    • 24.25.43.167 wrote:

      72.197.194.3 wrote:
      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld

      Assuming Tau Volantis is NOT the aliens' homeworld...

      have you even played the game there is an entire iscca marker hullcaination clip in DS3 where isacc says that Tau Volantis is not the marker home world have you even played and or beaten the game dumbass

      We're not talking about the Marker homeworld at all, dumbass

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.194.3 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      While their population was in the trillions, that doesn't mean that they made THAT many Markers. Perhaps they only made them on their homeworld

      Assuming Tau Volantis is NOT the aliens' homeworld...
      Dude what? Are you saying that I'm implying that Tau Volantis isn't their homeworld?

      Tell me, in the text logs, did any of them CONFIRM Tau Volantis was the aliens' homeworld?  Because I seem to recall one log from Serrano speculated that it's possible that these alien species had inherited MANY worlds, not just one.

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    • Yeah, but you said that I was assuming something which I wasn't.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Yeah, but you said that I was assuming something which I wasn't.


      Then what were you implying?

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    • Nothing at all. All I said was that maybe the Aliens only made Markers on their homeworld, Tau Volantis.

      If you think there was some deeper implication to that, you're an idiot.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Nothing at all. All I said was that maybe the Aliens only made Markers on their homeworld, Tau Volantis.

      If you think there was some deeper implication to that, you're an idiot.

      You just said it yourself: you think Tau Volantis is their homeworld.  You don't know that for a fact.

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    • No reason to believe otherwise

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      No reason to believe otherwise


      Not yet anyways.  But then, later games (if there are any) may prove otherwise.

      Look at the Ageis 7 marker from Dead Space 1.  We all thought it was made by EarthGov, but in reality it was made by the Sovereign Colonies, we just didn't know that until Dead Space 3.

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    • If it's on Earth then there has to be alot and I mean ALOT of Necromorphs and it should be pitch black with the moons blocking out the sun

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    • Nighttime isn't exactly scary.

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      No reason to believe otherwise


      Not yet anyways.  But then, later games (if there are any) may prove otherwise.

      Look at the Ageis 7 marker from Dead Space 1.  We all thought it was made by EarthGov, but in reality it was made by the Sovereign Colonies, we just didn't know that until Dead Space 3.

      Agreed, but that was a borderline retcon. When DS1 was around, it WAS EarthGov who made that Marker.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:
      No reason to believe otherwise

      Not yet anyways.  But then, later games (if there are any) may prove otherwise.

      Look at the Ageis 7 marker from Dead Space 1.  We all thought it was made by EarthGov, but in reality it was made by the Sovereign Colonies, we just didn't know that until Dead Space 3.

      Agreed, but that was a borderline retcon. When DS1 was around, it WAS EarthGov who made that Marker.


      That we knew as of that moment, but now it's confirmed that's not what REALLY happened.

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    • Yeah, I know what you mean. A borderline retcon is when they don't technically change anything, but just add something new to a plot element that everyone assumed was well-established.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Yeah, I know what you mean. A borderline retcon is when they don't technically change anything, but just add something new to a plot element that everyone assumed was well-established.


      Yeah I know how that works.

      Returning to the possibility of Dead Space 4 though, I'm not sure if Serrano's theory in Dead Space 3 would be correct or not.

      Right before Issac and Carver reached the alien machine, they found a SCAF film document by Serrano.  He speculated that if the Tau Volantis moon completed itself, all the other moons would come to Earth, looking for food and everything.

      But in order to give birth to a Brethren Moon, it requires a convergence event.  According to the book The Art of Dead Space, Visceral made it clear that the Moons absorb ALL of the matter created by the markers, and even parts of the planet itself.

      So, at the end of Awakened when the Moons were attacking Earth, I don't think they'll feed as much as everyone thinks.  They need plenty of organic material in order to give birth to another Moon.

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    • is this just me or is dead space going to go down the same road as resident evil, i know this is the dead space wiki and not the resident evil wiki but both the dead space 1 and re 1 were survival horror games and ds3 is like almost an action shooter game for me the best game in the series is stil ds1 the suspence and the use of sound and light and shadow made me feel uneasy every time i cut a corner, i hope you all agree with me that it should stay a survival horror game and not an action shooter game just to appeal to the masses, these games will allways have a hardcore fanbase and i for one will allways buy new dead space and resident evil games just becaus of the story they are telling wich allways keep me wanting to know more


      lets not bitch about these games (well maybe a little bit) and just enjoy the games as what they are 

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    • Well, you can technically say this for any horror game and its sequels.

      Only at the BEGINNING its scary because you're not used to how the game works, what kind of enemies will show up, and so on.  But once you make sequels to the game, the element of surprise is lost, and the enemies are more expected and therefore stop becoming scary.

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    • No, there are a ton of horror games that mix things up as you go along.

      Look at every Silent Hill game.

      You can only say that about RECENT "horror" games.

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote: So, at the end of Awakened when the Moons were attacking Earth, I don't think they'll feed as much as everyone thinks.  They need plenty of organic material in order to give birth to another Moon.

      Hm? No, I don't think that's how it works. The new Moon is the one on Tau Volantis. They might make another one on Earth, but I doubt it.

      What does it matter if they're eaten or Converged, anyways?

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote: So, at the end of Awakened when the Moons were attacking Earth, I don't think they'll feed as much as everyone thinks.  They need plenty of organic material in order to give birth to another Moon.

      Hm? No, I don't think that's how it works. The new Moon is the one on Tau Volantis. They might make another one on Earth, but I doubt it.

      What does it matter if they're eaten or Converged, anyways?


      Well I guess the main Q is how big was the Moon network intended to be.

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    • Yeah, I'd say they control at least a good third of the galaxy

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      Yeah, I'd say they control at least a good third of the galaxy


      It'd be interesting if we can go deep inside one in the next game (the part in Dead Space 3 technically doesn't count)

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    • i´m afraid there won´t be any other Dead Space game :(

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    • After experiencing DS3 and Awakened, I see that things can go 2 ways:

      1. End it here and have it all be a bad ending.

      2. Have the moons seen at the end of Awakened be mere hallucinations caused by the REAL approaching moons.

      We could have the latter option just to at least try to get a good ending for the series, but I feel that it be like Mass Effect, only instead of rounding up allies and stuff across the galaxy to help Earth fight off the Reapers, we'll be rounding up allies and stuff across Earth to fight off the Moons. We could have Isaac and Carver go to Earth's moon to do something about the threat, but it'll all probably be a "Wait, the answer was RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR NOSES ALL THIS TIME!?" scenario, and it'll be hard to make it viable. Plus, unless Isaac and Clarke manage to survive the re-entry to Earth and obtain a fully functional ship to travel across space, they are in a pretty dangerous predicament.


      Unless Ellie and Lexine team up and save the day or something. But until then, the Dead Space franchise kinda painted itself into a corner, and it will be hard to save itself unless they reboot the series or SPIN-OFFS FOR EVERYONE!!!

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    • It's hard to say.  Visceral currently isn't working on the next Dead Space game, they've only claimed that the Dead Space universe is still going.

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    • They should redesign the tool creator, with some more uniques, perhaps i will write a blog here with ideas. :P


      Btw. How fucked must be the hallucinations then, when youre so near before these brethren moons?? They are some mean bugs! :P

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    • 89.247.205.204 wrote:
      They should redesign the tool creator, with some more uniques, perhaps i will write a blog here with ideas. :P


      Btw. How fucked must be the hallucinations then, when youre so near before these brethren moons?? They are some mean bugs! :P


      You should have expected the moons' hallucinations to be more powerful.  Did you completely forget what the marker's hallucinations did to Issac in Dead Space 2?

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    • I simply came to find out the news on the new DS... and i see the stupid fights and i ask GTFO because no one wants you to run youre mouth on a wiki... how mutch fucking time do you have with youre life? get a fucking job and stop trolling Because if youre older than 15 then grow up, really because they did not make the wiki for you to talk shit and have a pissing contest here... so I ask please just stick to dead space because Mass effect has asked more favors for copyrite than any other game, and as far my opinion goes on halo, halo 1 came out in 2001 alot earler than most games... so really just sit down and wait. Dead Space 4 is going to be a game Issac and Carver would have not come back in the add on to be killed off with the whole human race, think about how Divers deadspace is and then tell me it will end with such a stupid ending, i mean really they do not just simply find earth Rite after they killed the moon, it could be like 10 years later and Humanity had already left earth and Issac was told by the moons to go there so they can kill him Because he is the only one who can kill them. Because like he once said (Carver You need me Remember, Im the marker killer)



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    • wut

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    • I'm not too into the story but what about a mash up of earlier ideas?

      The "psychic feedback" (use the markers against the necromorphs) principle seems promising and the "moon-cracker" (use planetcracker ships) has a certain irony to it. so perhaps using a marker to send out a signal that shocks/paralyzes/stuns the brother moons (apparently they all operate on the same/similar frequency) and then using the time gained to crack them? ICBMs seem promising...we already have the tech to blow up the earth 50 times (Somewhere around that number), seven moons could be wiped out by that, and assuming that they SOMEHOW survive then of course the moons will have to deal with everyone's favorite isotopes, namely the radioactive ones. Personally I'm expecting a human military/militia/armada to appear out of nowhere and start a big smack-down with the moon bros. as for lovecraftian references........all these games in and you JUST found out? As for Halo, Mass effect (or should it be anger after that shitty ending?), and CoD.....can't we all just coexist and stop making people’s ears rings with your childish arguments?

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    • Maybe the hallucinations never stopped and the ending of Awakened didn't happen, and its the Moons are still stalling because in reality they can't get to Earth but they're probing the mind of Isaac. I hope that's what happens and somehow Isaac tricks them.

      Also what if their home planet is just Earth? Has it been suggested that Isaac and Carver were Necros the whole time?


      BUT in reality what will happen is that the Necros will win and Earth will be destroyed, Isaac & Carver won't be main characters but they will be on a mission somehow in the background. You'll play as someone else and will live on a colony somewhere trying to figure out how to live in the stars. Maybe Isaac will relay orders somehow, maybe using the Markers from deepsace. IDK I'm just throwing out things to think about. I had no idea Awakened existed and I haven't gotten to play any videgames in a while but I would rather not have this whole series end like that.

      Earth will be in the process of being destroyed, and the protagonist will be on a revenge mission, but led by Isaac. Maybe even Carver.

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    • 64.211.116.85 wrote:
      Maybe the hallucinations never stopped and the ending of Awakened didn't happen, and its the Moons are still stalling because in reality they can't get to Earth but they're probing the mind of Isaac. I hope that's what happens and somehow Isaac tricks them.

      Also what if their home planet is just Earth? Has it been suggested that Isaac and Carver were Necros the whole time?


      BUT in reality what will happen is that the Necros will win and Earth will be destroyed, Isaac & Carver won't be main characters but they will be on a mission somehow in the background. You'll play as someone else and will live on a colony somewhere trying to figure out how to live in the stars. Maybe Isaac will relay orders somehow, maybe using the Markers from deepsace. IDK I'm just throwing out things to think about. I had no idea Awakened existed and I haven't gotten to play any videgames in a while but I would rather not have this whole series end like that.

      Earth will be in the process of being destroyed, and the protagonist will be on a revenge mission, but led by Isaac. Maybe even Carver.

      Because of all the betrayals Issac had to go through, he may not see humanity worth saving anymore.

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    • I doubt that very much...you don't invest 3+ games on a single character and then have him be  in the background and/or non-playable in the (for all we know) final one.

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    • Why not? It's been done to great effect previously

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    • Sahron wrote:
      I doubt that very much...you don't invest 3+ games on a single character and then have him be  in the background and/or non-playable in the (for all we know) final one.


      Contrary to what you think, games HAVE developed over times where the hero is unable to finish what he had started, and the ending of the series requires someone else to take over.

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    • OK OK OK. I'm not getting into a youtube -esque argument over this. However if everyone is done arguing about things no one knows about I'd like to know FACTS about the game such as release dates and whether they've announced that they're working on it (hopefully they're not pulling a Bethesda like the Fallout Devs are doing  to their fanbase....)

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    • Sahron wrote:
      OK OK OK. I'm not getting into a youtube -esque argument over this. However if everyone is done arguing about things no one knows about I'd like to know FACTS about the game such as release dates and whether they've announced that they're working on it (hopefully they're not pulling a Bethesda like the Fallout Devs are doing  to their fanbase....)

      From a very, VERY reliable source. No seriously.

      ---

      "We are working on another Dead Space game." says Steve Papoutsis. "And we are thinking of the fans for this installment. We realize the last game was more action focused, but veterans of the franchise wanted more scares. To do that, we're making Dead Space 4 a first person shooter, as well as throwing more enemies at the player in a series of enemy gauntlets that have you locked in a room until you clear out all the enemies.  We will also have very dark and grey and brown colored rooms to make it feel more atmospheric, and the music will constantly be blaring very loudly to up the tension of each encounter."

      "Also, regarding the player having to pay $0.25 a bullet." He continues. "We are also adding ration seals to Dead Space 4 that pay for $1.00 of bullets each. They are incredibly rare and almost impossible to find, however, and we think players will enjoy exploring the extremely linear and small areas to find them."

      "Also, regarding the activation fee for the ration seals. The player will have to pay $1.00 to activate each ration seal to claim their free $1.00 worth of bullets. We believe the players will understand why we have to do this."

      "Why do we have to do this? Oh, sorry, looks like we're out of time. Well it's been a lovely interview, IGN. Here, we'll pay you in advance to give the game a high score. Bye, now."


      - IGN Interview on Dead Space 4

      - Game rating 10/10

      Source: NoIhaven'tforgivenEAforDeadSpace3andAwakened.com

      Secondary Source: ProvemewrongEA.PROVEMEWRONG.org

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Sahron wrote:
      OK OK OK. I'm not getting into a youtube -esque argument over this. However if everyone is done arguing about things no one knows about I'd like to know FACTS about the game such as release dates and whether they've announced that they're working on it (hopefully they're not pulling a Bethesda like the Fallout Devs are doing  to their fanbase....)
      From a very, VERY reliable source. No seriously.

      ---

      "We are working on another Dead Space game." says Steve Papoutsis. "And we are thinking of the fans for this installment. We realize the last game was more action focused, but veterans of the franchise wanted more scares. To do that, we're making Dead Space 4 a first person shooter, as well as throwing more enemies at the player in a series of enemy gauntlets that have you locked in a room until you clear out all the enemies.  We will also have very dark and grey and brown colored rooms to make it feel more atmospheric, and the music will constantly be blaring very loudly to up the tension of each encounter."

      "Also, regarding the player having to pay $0.25 a bullet." He continues. "We are also adding ration seals to Dead Space 4 that pay for $1.00 of bullets each. They are incredibly rare and almost impossible to find, however, and we think players will enjoy exploring the extremely linear and small areas to find them."

      "Also, regarding the activation fee for the ration seals. The player will have to pay $1.00 to activate each ration seal to claim their free $1.00 worth of bullets. We believe the players will understand why we have to do this."

      "Why do we have to do this? Oh, sorry, looks like we're out of time. Well it's been a lovely interview, IGN. Here, we'll pay you in advance to give the game a high score. Bye, now."


      - IGN Interview on Dead Space 4

      - Game rating 10/10

      Source: NoIhaven'tforgivenEAforDeadSpace3andAwakened.com

      Secondary Source: ProvemewrongEA.PROVEMEWRONG.org


      Oh please, you really think a first person shooter can make things scary?  I still remember all the way back in 2005 when Doom 3 came out, wasn't the slightest bit scary.

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Sahron wrote:
      OK OK OK. I'm not getting into a youtube -esque argument over this. However if everyone is done arguing about things no one knows about I'd like to know FACTS about the game such as release dates and whether they've announced that they're working on it (hopefully they're not pulling a Bethesda like the Fallout Devs are doing  to their fanbase....)
      From a very, VERY reliable source. No seriously.

      ---

      "We are working on another Dead Space game." says Steve Papoutsis. "And we are thinking of the fans for this installment. We realize the last game was more action focused, but veterans of the franchise wanted more scares. To do that, we're making Dead Space 4 a first person shooter, as well as throwing more enemies at the player in a series of enemy gauntlets that have you locked in a room until you clear out all the enemies.  We will also have very dark and grey and brown colored rooms to make it feel more atmospheric, and the music will constantly be blaring very loudly to up the tension of each encounter."

      "Also, regarding the player having to pay $0.25 a bullet." He continues. "We are also adding ration seals to Dead Space 4 that pay for $1.00 of bullets each. They are incredibly rare and almost impossible to find, however, and we think players will enjoy exploring the extremely linear and small areas to find them."

      "Also, regarding the activation fee for the ration seals. The player will have to pay $1.00 to activate each ration seal to claim their free $1.00 worth of bullets. We believe the players will understand why we have to do this."

      "Why do we have to do this? Oh, sorry, looks like we're out of time. Well it's been a lovely interview, IGN. Here, we'll pay you in advance to give the game a high score. Bye, now."


      - IGN Interview on Dead Space 4

      - Game rating 10/10

      Source: NoIhaven'tforgivenEAforDeadSpace3andAwakened.com

      Secondary Source: ProvemewrongEA.PROVEMEWRONG.org


      Oh please, you really think a first person shooter can make things scary?  I still remember all the way back in 2005 when Doom 3 came out, wasn't the slightest bit scary.


      Ever heard of sarcasm?

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Sahron wrote:
      OK OK OK. I'm not getting into a youtube -esque argument over this. However if everyone is done arguing about things no one knows about I'd like to know FACTS about the game such as release dates and whether they've announced that they're working on it (hopefully they're not pulling a Bethesda like the Fallout Devs are doing  to their fanbase....)
      From a very, VERY reliable source. No seriously.

      ---

      "We are working on another Dead Space game." says Steve Papoutsis. "And we are thinking of the fans for this installment. We realize the last game was more action focused, but veterans of the franchise wanted more scares. To do that, we're making Dead Space 4 a first person shooter, as well as throwing more enemies at the player in a series of enemy gauntlets that have you locked in a room until you clear out all the enemies.  We will also have very dark and grey and brown colored rooms to make it feel more atmospheric, and the music will constantly be blaring very loudly to up the tension of each encounter."

      "Also, regarding the player having to pay $0.25 a bullet." He continues. "We are also adding ration seals to Dead Space 4 that pay for $1.00 of bullets each. They are incredibly rare and almost impossible to find, however, and we think players will enjoy exploring the extremely linear and small areas to find them."

      "Also, regarding the activation fee for the ration seals. The player will have to pay $1.00 to activate each ration seal to claim their free $1.00 worth of bullets. We believe the players will understand why we have to do this."

      "Why do we have to do this? Oh, sorry, looks like we're out of time. Well it's been a lovely interview, IGN. Here, we'll pay you in advance to give the game a high score. Bye, now."


      - IGN Interview on Dead Space 4

      - Game rating 10/10

      Source: NoIhaven'tforgivenEAforDeadSpace3andAwakened.com

      Secondary Source: ProvemewrongEA.PROVEMEWRONG.org


      Oh please, you really think a first person shooter can make things scary?  I still remember all the way back in 2005 when Doom 3 came out, wasn't the slightest bit scary.

      Ever heard of sarcasm?

      It's a little hard to tell from online.

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    • Well i hope Dead Space 4 will come out better as the 3rd one, i think the 4th game will have a lot of new Necromorphs and make the game a free roam.

      amother thing is I like to see a online game of Dead Space and I think that be awesome of you picking to play as a Sold, Scout, Engineer or Demoman. Another thing that be good is when Infector attack and infected you, you'll become a Necromorphs and when you die you come back to normal.

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    • First things first, Shadow.  We need to know if there even WILL be a DS4.

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    • ShadowWolfHount wrote:
      Well i hope Dead Space 4 will come out better as the 3rd one, i think the 4th game will have a lot of new Necromorphs and make the game a free roam.

      amother thing is I like to see a online game of Dead Space and I think that be awesome of you picking to play as a Sold, Scout, Engineer or Demoman. Another thing that be good is when Infector attack and infected you, you'll become a Necromorphs and when you die you come back to normal.


      That is the absolute WORST idea ever. Its simple ideas like this that make games easy shoot em ups like Battlefield or COD. It wouldn't even be dead space anymore. It would be free space or some terrible terrible damage. Oh My God just reading this makes me think you're 14 years old.

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    • Is there ANY information out there on Deadspace 4 that isn't sarcastic or angry or biased in any way.....are there any COLD HARD FUCKING FACTS!  FACTS!  I don't want sarcastic messages or flamewars or any of that other shit I want the real fucking real deal! Can ANYONE tell me the FACTS?!

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    • Sahron wrote:
      Is there ANY information out there on Deadspace 4 that isn't sarcastic or angry or biased in any way.....are there any COLD HARD FUCKING FACTS!  FACTS!  I don't want sarcastic messages or flamewars or any of that other shit I want the real fucking real deal! Can ANYONE tell me the FACTS?!


      There aren't any facts yet.  Right now Visceral is working on a different game.  The only thing they've said is that the Dead Space universe isn't over yet.

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    • Thank you.

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    • Sahron wrote:
      Thank you.

      So, in that sense it doesn't really mean anything.  Visceral is simply saying that they'll turn back to the Dead Space universe EVENTUALLY, nothing more.

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    • It's not sarcastic or a flame war, that's what i was thanking you for.

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    • Sahron wrote:
      It's not sarcastic or a flame war, that's what i was thanking you for.

      I understand.  I'm just saying no matter what we want Dead Space 4 to turn out, right now it's only wishes.

      Visceral at this point hasn't even announced if there WILL be a Dead Space 4 or not, we need news of THAT first.

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    • Ishimura Elite wrote:
      Death is only theBeginning wrote:
      Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Yeah, I kinda want to hope that Dead Space 3 turns out to all be a dream.
      be honest though if they pulled some crap like that in a 4th game would you really just go along with it?

      Having it at least implied that EA admits that they screwed up?

      Hell yes, I'd go with it!

      Eh, who am I kidding? They wouldn't admit to anything. They'd defend a Holocaust simulator if they made it.


      Well actually in DS3 they had to make it action more than horror to stop it from being boring since if it was Horror it would just seem like a recreation of the 1st and 2nd which would get really boring

      I hope there will be a DS4 but like Fraidy-cat said where the moons are a not real and it would be great if it was on a lunar base however i also think that the DLC makes no sence when the moon turns into one cos that colided with the earth billions of years ago so that would be long dead. However these are my thoughts on the matter, like or hate me for them i don't care ^^ just dont rage at me for ages or one something that don't matter.

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    • Isaac and Carver crash on the moon, only to fidn that a convergence event is about to begin on the moon. It begins, and the two heroes embark on a mission to find a station to contact earth and find a ship to escape the moon. As they move, our moon is transforming into a necromorph.  THe two flee to earth and try to contact it, but nobody answers. As they land on earth, they get contacted by ellie and they learn that EarthGov has fallen and mass killings are happening  in the name of unitology. Whith no hope left, they embark on the mission to destroy the moon using a planet cracker.

      As the killing increases on earth and the moon matures, they crack it but the moon defends it self. They decide to throw the ship into the moon, hoping that it will kill the beast. It finally dies, but the marker signal does not die. The black marker is still active and is affecting the whole earth.

      As they finally arrive near the black marker site, they encounter unique black necromorphs. While they are there, they hear necromorph screams in every direction. It appears as though everything is infected. They even see crazed people running at them to stop destryoing the black marker.

      In the end, they encounter old and hidden altman logs, him detailing what he saw.

      As it turns out, the marker on earth is not just a part of the network, it is a part of the human race and life on earth. It made the human race, human DNA is encoded in the marker.

      As they finally meet the black marker deep underground, they are confronted by the unitologists overseer. Him saying that destryoing the marker will doom the human race.

      Isaac finally realizes, the unitologists were right, in a twisted way. Humans are nothing but "Livve" necromorphs and that necromorphs are the final evolution of the grand plan of the marker-moons.

      As the black marker ges destroyed, it sends out a huge shockwave, destroying all all necrotic flesh and living flesh, turning earth into dead planet, however, denying any influence of the moons towards earth.

      The last remnants of the human race re setteled on earth, to find it devoid of all life and some others ventured into other places, in dead space.


      How do you like my Dead Space 4 fan fiction?

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    • With this music playing in the end

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6dv3ukXUVM

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    • I think there's only so many ways they can make Necromorphs and Markers and Unitologists scary anymore, and having them jump out of shadows at you doesn't pack the cerebral punch that sells.  Moon-sized monsters is an interesting twist and all but I think if they want DS4 to have any chance of success they're going to have to stick their hand inside the Scary Hat and choose a new rabbit to pull out.  Something unexpected.  It's not like they haven't got the material, though.  They could always do an Origins piece, explore where the Markers began, who created them, why, what sudden and unexpected hells the creators endured and how it progressed to the life and times of Isaac Clarke.  Something along those lines.  My point is that they've played out all of their current angles - I was never even that interested in the Unitologists to be honest, they always seemed more like an annoying distraction than anything else so having them feature so prominently in DS2 and DS3 was Fail/Disappoint.  They do not fascinate.  Please, don't push that plot anymore.  DS3 was more about changing circumstances so hopefully DS4 will be about new circumstances.  I'd love it if they couldn't save Earth, humanity on the run in the Dead Space universe would make for an awesome story, but I guess we'll see.

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    • If there's another Dead Space game, I doubt it'll be Dead Space 4. Humanity is extinct. The Brethren Moons' plan was to confuse Isaac and Carver; delay them until they could get to Earth.

      They succeeded.

      Even if you ignore the fact that the Moons are eating up our solar system, Markers were activated on Luna at the beginning of DS3, which means they most likely made it to Earth even before the end of the game.

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    • Jamie Jones54842 wrote:
      If there's another Dead Space game, I doubt it'll be Dead Space 4. Humanity is extinct. The Brethren Moons' plan was to confuse Isaac and Carver; delay them until they could get to Earth.

      They succeeded.

      Even if you ignore the fact that the Moons are eating up our solar system, Markers were activated on Luna at the beginning of DS3, which means they most likely made it to Earth even before the end of the game.


      UNLESS, we find out that everything in Dead Space 3 Awakened was real except for the ending, and the Brethren Moon invasion of Earth WOULD happen, but what Issac and Carver saw was only a hallucination.  It would happen in the future, but not just yet.


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    • Jamie Jones54842 wrote:
      If there's another Dead Space game, I doubt it'll be Dead Space 4. Humanity is extinct. The Brethren Moons' plan was to confuse Isaac and Carver; delay them until they could get to Earth.

      They succeeded.

      Even if you ignore the fact that the Moons are eating up our solar system, Markers were activated on Luna at the beginning of DS3, which means they most likely made it to Earth even before the end of the game.


      Unless the Awakened ENDING is just a hallucination, just like Dead Space 1's ending.

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Jamie Jones54842 wrote:
      If there's another Dead Space game, I doubt it'll be Dead Space 4. Humanity is extinct. The Brethren Moons' plan was to confuse Isaac and Carver; delay them until they could get to Earth.

      They succeeded.

      Even if you ignore the fact that the Moons are eating up our solar system, Markers were activated on Luna at the beginning of DS3, which means they most likely made it to Earth even before the end of the game.


      Unless the Awakened ENDING is just a hallucination, just like Dead Space 1's ending.


      The entirety of Awakened a hallucination? That would be...aw hell I'd be willing to put up with that if they used it as a means to guide Dead Space 4's plot to a good place.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Jamie Jones54842 wrote:
      If there's another Dead Space game, I doubt it'll be Dead Space 4. Humanity is extinct. The Brethren Moons' plan was to confuse Isaac and Carver; delay them until they could get to Earth.

      They succeeded.

      Even if you ignore the fact that the Moons are eating up our solar system, Markers were activated on Luna at the beginning of DS3, which means they most likely made it to Earth even before the end of the game.


      Unless the Awakened ENDING is just a hallucination, just like Dead Space 1's ending.

      The entirety of Awakened a hallucination? That would be...aw hell I'd be willing to put up with that if they used it as a means to guide Dead Space 4's plot to a good place.


      Well why not?  The marker on Aegis 7 was able to give Issac plenty of dementia, it only makes sense that the moons can do the same thing to him, even from a distance away.

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    • I'm sure the moons can cause hallucinations.  I'm equally sure that the moons attacking Earth were not a hallucination.  Think about it, in the context of Dead Space the end of the world is not necessarily the End of the World!!  Earth isn't even a place we've been to, yet.  It's expendable.  The Bretheren Moons can wipe out the planet in less than a day and it'll only serve to make the overall plot that much more dramatic at zero cost.  We wont be losing anything important 'cept maybe EarthGov as a functional organization and that was pretty much wiped out in DS3.  Though, I have to admit, it'd be a real kick in the bag if a bunch of fleshy, dead moons finally succeeded where so many mighty alien races have failed before.  Talk about trading a bang for a whimper.

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    • Omgawdsrsly wrote:
      I'm sure the moons can cause hallucinations.  I'm equally sure that the moons attacking Earth were not a hallucination.  Think about it, in the context of Dead Space the end of the world is not necessarily the End of the World!!  Earth isn't even a place we've been to, yet.  It's expendable.  The Bretheren Moons can wipe out the planet in less than a day and it'll only serve to make the overall plot that much more dramatic at zero cost.  We wont be losing anything important 'cept maybe EarthGov as a functional organization and that was pretty much wiped out in DS3.  Though, I have to admit, it'd be a real kick in the bag if a bunch of fleshy, dead moons finally succeeded where so many mighty alien races have failed before.  Talk about trading a bang for a whimper.

      I'm not saying the WHOLE of Awakened should be a hallucination.

      The only part I want as a hallucination was the part where one of the moons intercepted the Terra Nova and caused the ship to ram into it.  If you recall, that moment had the distortion colors of the hallucinations we saw throughout the 3 Awakened chapters.

      Besides, what we see, hear, and touch can be manipulated by the markers, and the moons as well.

      For example, the seeing part is obvious.  If you were playing solo, then at the end of the first chapter of Awakened, while Carver was waiting for you near the last Unitologist ship, Issac claimed he got attacked by necromorphs in hallucinations, but Carver insisted that Issac was standing around doing nothing.

      The hearing part was shown in the Dead Space 3 Marker Containment mission (co-op only).  Remember the log that you come across.  As Carver, he would hear Damara telling him how painful it was when they cut her up piece by piece, whereas all Issac heard was Joker-like maniacal laughter.

      Even the touch part could be manipulated.  This was what the Developers tried to explain in the Dead Space Extraction game, where one second you're stepping into a puddle of water, the next second you're suddenly neck deep in a water current carrying you down a drain.

      If we put these pieces together, then it's entirely possible that when Issac and Carver tried to contact Earth and only heard the sounds of necromorphs, that was never even real, and was just the moons playing one of their hallucination tricks on them.  The same was true when they saw the Brethren Moons attacking Earth.

      Bottom line: we don't know the extent of the hallucination powers the markers and the moons have, and it makes you seriously wonder: has ANYTHING you've done so far even been real?  Or has it all just been a hallucination?

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    • Reminds me of Alice in Wonderland........

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Omgawdsrsly wrote:
      I'm sure the moons can cause hallucinations.  I'm equally sure that the moons attacking Earth were not a hallucination.  Think about it, in the context of Dead Space the end of the world is not necessarily the End of the World!!  Earth isn't even a place we've been to, yet.  It's expendable.  The Bretheren Moons can wipe out the planet in less than a day and it'll only serve to make the overall plot that much more dramatic at zero cost.  We wont be losing anything important 'cept maybe EarthGov as a functional organization and that was pretty much wiped out in DS3.  Though, I have to admit, it'd be a real kick in the bag if a bunch of fleshy, dead moons finally succeeded where so many mighty alien races have failed before.  Talk about trading a bang for a whimper.
      I'm not saying the WHOLE of Awakened should be a hallucination.

      The only part I want as a hallucination was the part where one of the moons intercepted the Terra Nova and caused the ship to ram into it.  If you recall, that moment had the distortion colors of the hallucinations we saw throughout the 3 Awakened chapters.

      Besides, what we see, hear, and touch can be manipulated by the markers, and the moons as well.

      For example, the seeing part is obvious.  If you were playing solo, then at the end of the first chapter of Awakened, while Carver was waiting for you near the last Unitologist ship, Issac claimed he got attacked by necromorphs in hallucinations, but Carver insisted that Issac was standing around doing nothing.

      The hearing part was shown in the Dead Space 3 Marker Containment mission (co-op only).  Remember the log that you come across.  As Carver, he would hear Damara telling him how painful it was when they cut her up piece by piece, whereas all Issac heard was Joker-like maniacal laughter.

      Even the touch part could be manipulated.  This was what the Developers tried to explain in the Dead Space Extraction game, where one second you're stepping into a puddle of water, the next second you're suddenly neck deep in a water current carrying you down a drain.

      If we put these pieces together, then it's entirely possible that when Issac and Carver tried to contact Earth and only heard the sounds of necromorphs, that was never even real, and was just the moons playing one of their hallucination tricks on them.  The same was true when they saw the Brethren Moons attacking Earth.

      Bottom line: we don't know the extent of the hallucination powers the markers and the moons have, and it makes you seriously wonder: has ANYTHING you've done so far even been real?  Or has it all just been a hallucination?



      Good Point Awakened cant be just a hallucination (even though there are EXTREME hallucinations in that DLC) but that doesnt mean the end of it wasnt a hallucination. I mean, how in the HELL would their be that many moons in the first place? Plus, when they "crashed" into the Brethen Moon, their was NO WAY it moved that fast! So, i think their hallucination made them not only just see the Brethen Moons, I also belive it also made them NOT see the Lunar Colony and and Earth's moon.

      By the way, this was posted by Shadow50056

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    • I vote for a reboot...

      Maybe ONE more game to finish the current Arc, then reboot the entire series.

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    • Ccrogers15 wrote:
      I vote for a reboot...

      Maybe ONE more game to finish the current Arc, then reboot the entire series.


      Tell that to capcom for the Resident evil series.

      But I don't know about rebooting Dead Space.  There won't be any surprises if you remake it.  Look at the Devil May Cry remake.

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    • Fraidy-Cat wrote:
      Doomspeaker wrote:
      DigitalUnBrEaK wrote:

      And for the record, Halo, Dead Space, COD, and Mass Effect are all good franchises.


      I will give you three out of the franchises are good franchises, but COD is not one of them Dead space is by far the best game series i have ever played and COD is same shit different year

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    • Well the CoD ones is more on multiplayer.

      It'd be interesting if Dead Space 4 had multiplayer again.

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:
      Ccrogers15 wrote:
      I vote for a reboot...

      Maybe ONE more game to finish the current Arc, then reboot the entire series.


      Tell that to capcom for the Resident evil series.

      But I don't know about rebooting Dead Space.  There won't be any surprises if you remake it.  Look at the Devil May Cry remake.

      Thats because capcom has already let it go on too far its not worth a reboot. Damage is done.

      Dead space does not need to end up like that, and can very well turn itself around before it gets too far. 

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    • By doing what exactly?

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Ccrogers15 wrote:
      I vote for a reboot...

      Maybe ONE more game to finish the current Arc, then reboot the entire series.


      Tell that to capcom for the Resident evil series.

      But I don't know about rebooting Dead Space.  There won't be any surprises if you remake it.  Look at the Devil May Cry remake.

      Not THAT kind of remake/reboot.

      Just the beginning of a new story in the same universe.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Ccrogers15 wrote:
      I vote for a reboot...

      Maybe ONE more game to finish the current Arc, then reboot the entire series.


      Tell that to capcom for the Resident evil series.

      But I don't know about rebooting Dead Space.  There won't be any surprises if you remake it.  Look at the Devil May Cry remake.

      Not THAT kind of remake/reboot.

      Just the beginning of a new story in the same universe.


      Yeah well compared to Dead Space 1 and 2, Extraction didn't exactly have the same ring...

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    • add me psn MertBoraus we can play ds whenever im online.

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    • Rotomaniac wrote:
      Now, from what I see, the ONLY possible way that they can have a Dead Space 4 is if they use it to finish the franchise. Which means Issac (and Carver) find the TRUE source of the Markers, find out how to disable it, or kill the moons, etc., and then end it. Forever.

      Maybe it'll be better than 3?

      Maybe there won't be many Necromorphs... maybe the creator race...

      Maybe they'll both die.

      And hopefully, it will be good




      ... And Earth gets saved... kinda...

      Yeah but they both already died

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    • So what?  That's the morale of the story: the hero never lives

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    • The Black Marker is still on Earth in the Gulf of Mexico.

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    • 173.169.121.76 wrote:
      The Black Marker is still on Earth in the Gulf of Mexico.


      Are you sure of that?  I have a log from DS3 that may suggest otherwise...

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    • Referencing Dead Space Martyr; it tells us that Michael Altman destroyed and sank the research facility that the Black Marker was on. This facility was located above the Chicxulub Crater in the Gulf of Mexico, off of the Yucatan Penninsula.

      "Altman succeeds in sinking the artifact and the billion-dollar facility, drowning the infection and releasing the Marker away."

      Referencing  "Part Seven: The End of the World; Dead Space Martyr"

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    • And in chapter 14 of Dead Space 3, you'll come across the following text log (I'll highlight the part in bold)

      Type: Text Characters: Ambrose Caiden Chapter: 14 Can be found: Transcript: FROM: GOA Ambrose Caiden

      TO: GEN Spencer Mahad

      SUBJECT: SCENARIO FIVE

      After reciving your reports on Dr. Serranos's latest discoveries and in light of recent activities at the marker test sites, it is the decision of the council to invoke scenario five. What we once thought would save us from extinction has only served to hasten it.

      Everything about the markers - all research, all replicas, even the black marker - must be forever buried. All sites are to be shuttured. All involved planets are to be blacklisted. Everyone involved in the marker program, from Aspera to Aegis VII to Tau Volantis are to be executed.

      We realize this will effectively negate our ability to fight the war against the separatists. They will no doubt take power and form an Earth government in the vaccum we leave behind. But to save the future of mankind, this must come to pass. Should one person, ship or scrap of paper survive to make its way into their hands, the epidemic will begin anew and our sacrifice will have been for nothing. I know I can count on you to carry out these orders.

      It has been a pleasure working with you for these many years.

      Long live the colonies.

      .

      .

      Now, notice the quote of "Everything about the markers - all research, all replicas, even the black marker - must be forever buried."

      So, could this mean that sometime after the Black Marker was sunk into the depths, the Sovereign Colonies dug it back out?

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    • Been wondering about that myself.  There's a world of difference between outer space and the depths of the oceans but given all the tech presented in the Dead Space universe I find it hard to believe that humanity has no means of plumbing the waters to find the Black Marker and dredge it back up.  Given how dedicated these organizations have been to screwing around with these things it would make no sense for them to collectively agree to let the oldest and possibly most important Marker sit on the bottom of the ocean for all this time.  I also have a personal suspicion that the fate of the Black Marker and the origins of the Oracles are interconnected.  I also believe that if someone did recover the Black Marker then it wasn't EarthGov or the Unitologists, otherwise they wouldn't have been so hot to get their hands on Isaac and people like him to build Markers for them.  I have no theories about who has it, what they've been doing with it all this time or what's likely to happen next, I just don't believe for a second that they left it at the bottom of a crater after Altman sunk the facility.  

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    • "DredgerCorp, a resource retrieval corporation." -DS Martyr

      "DredgerCorp call in the military to take over the salvage operation and get the artifact out for examination." -DS Martyr

      "Altman succeeds in sinking the artifact and the billion-dollar facility, drowning the infection and releasing the Marker away." -DS Martyr

      "Some time during the 2300s, the Sovereign Colonies became embroiled in a major conflict known as the Secession War that pitted them against the Earth Government." -SC DSWiki

      "According to Damara Carver, the Sovereign Colonies experimentation with the Black Marker predates all major projects involving the Earth Government some two centuries. Red Markers, man made copies of the Black Marker, were stationed on planets such Aegis VII, Aspera and Proxima Centauri."  -SC DSWiki

      Dead Space Martyr events happens in 2214 CE.

      From this information we can assume that yes the Black Marker was recovered from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico again but as to where it is / was stored still remains a mystery...

      Since an enthusiastic religion had been created along with the disastrous effects of the Black Marker known to a few survivors of the Chicxlub Incident and most likely Earth Gov. We can assume that the Black Marker is locked away in some facility on Earth. However; because the Soverign Colonies were a rebel force against Earth Gov and that they experimented on the Black marker before Earth Gov did. We can also logically assume that before the rebellion they attained either the Black Marker or its research some how with help from Earth Gov. Now, because DredgerCorp appears in both DS Martyr and as a serious corperate entity in the opening stage of DS3, they were most likely involved with its salvage and research. This leads us back to the Soverign Colonies. While on the CMS Roanoke there is a film that tells us a few things:

      The "DISCOVERY" of the Black Marker.

      Limitless Energy.

      The three other research facilities other than Tau Volantis: Aegis 7, Aspera and Proxima Centauri.

      These three things tell us that the Soverign Colonies were involved somehow with the initial and seconadary sufacing of the Black Marker, that they were either attempting to actually attain limitless energy or weaponize the Marker and that the three other facilities were created to test either of those objectives.

      When the disaster on Tau Volantis occured the SCAF suffered a major blow and the Soverign Colonies collapsed because of it, thus enabling Earth Gov to quell the rebellion. This then leads us to another assumption, that because of the collapse of the Soverign Colonies, Earth Gov discovered their research over time and either began to re-experiment with the markers or attempt to hide the existence of the experimentation so more rebellions wouldn't happen. However; because Issac was captured and his brain was probed for the blue prints of the Red / Black Marker it is possible that when Scenario Five was initiated that the massive data purge destroyed all knowledge of, or where the Black Marker site and Red Marker Sites were. Which leads to Aegis 7, 200 years later.

      Yet there is also the fact that if the Black Marker was never taken by the Soverign Colonies an allied entity or lost somehow, that it remains somewhere on Earth still; somewhere TOP SECRET and someplace that would never be exposed unless the Earth were attacked by five Convergence Brethren Moons.

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    • Everything about the markers - all research, all replicas, even the black marker - must be forever buried. All sites are to be shuttured. All involved planets are to be blacklisted. Everyone involved in the marker program, from Aspera to Aegis VII to Tau Volantis are to be executed.

      This bit of information might also indicate that the Soverign Colonies had research of or the Black Marker itself; forwarding conclusions stated above.

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    • Earth Gov and the Soverign Colonies may also have a deeper conection than just a simple coup d' etat...

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    • Retnuh D wrote:
      Everything about the markers - all research, all replicas, even the black marker - must be forever buried. All sites are to be shuttured. All involved planets are to be blacklisted. Everyone involved in the marker program, from Aspera to Aegis VII to Tau Volantis are to be executed.

      This bit of information might also indicate that the Soverign Colonies had research of or the Black Marker itself; forwarding conclusions stated above.

      Well yeah because by the time the Black Marker was discovered in 2214, the Sovereign Colonies were still around.  It wouldn't be surprising if they had some spies in EarthGov to know about the Black Marker or something.

      For the research facilities of Aspera, Aegis 7, and Proxima Centauri, the reason they're important is because in the book Dead Space Liberation, it was revealed that the Sovereign Colonies used 3 Red Markers in order to triagulate the Master Marker Signal.  The 3 markers used were stationed on Aspera, Aegis 7, and Proxima Centauri.

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    • Retnuh D wrote:
      "DredgerCorp, a resource retrieval corporation." -DS Martyr

      "DredgerCorp call in the military to take over the salvage operation and get the artifact out for examination." -DS Martyr

      "Altman succeeds in sinking the artifact and the billion-dollar facility, drowning the infection and releasing the Marker away." -DS Martyr

      "Some time during the 2300s, the Sovereign Colonies became embroiled in a major conflict known as the Secession War that pitted them against the Earth Government." -SC DSWiki

      "According to Damara Carver, the Sovereign Colonies experimentation with the Black Marker predates all major projects involving the Earth Government some two centuries. Red Markers, man made copies of the Black Marker, were stationed on planets such Aegis VII, Aspera and Proxima Centauri."  -SC DSWiki

      Dead Space Martyr events happens in 2214 CE.

      From this information we can assume that yes the Black Marker was recovered from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico again but as to where it is / was stored still remains a mystery...

      Since an enthusiastic religion had been created along with the disastrous effects of the Black Marker known to a few survivors of the Chicxlub Incident and most likely Earth Gov. We can assume that the Black Marker is locked away in some facility on Earth. However; because the Soverign Colonies were a rebel force against Earth Gov and that they experimented on the Black marker before Earth Gov did. We can also logically assume that before the rebellion they attained either the Black Marker or its research some how with help from Earth Gov. Now, because DredgerCorp appears in both DS Martyr and as a serious corperate entity in the opening stage of DS3, they were most likely involved with its salvage and research. This leads us back to the Soverign Colonies. While on the CMS Roanoke there is a film that tells us a few things:

      The "DISCOVERY" of the Black Marker.

      Limitless Energy.

      The three other research facilities other than Tau Volantis: Aegis 7, Aspera and Proxima Centauri.

      These three things tell us that the Soverign Colonies were involved somehow with the initial and seconadary sufacing of the Black Marker, that they were either attempting to actually attain limitless energy or weaponize the Marker and that the three other facilities were created to test either of those objectives.

      When the disaster on Tau Volantis occured the SCAF suffered a major blow and the Soverign Colonies collapsed because of it, thus enabling Earth Gov to quell the rebellion. This then leads us to another assumption, that because of the collapse of the Soverign Colonies, Earth Gov discovered their research over time and either began to re-experiment with the markers or attempt to hide the existence of the experimentation so more rebellions wouldn't happen. However; because Issac was captured and his brain was probed for the blue prints of the Red / Black Marker it is possible that when Scenario Five was initiated that the massive data purge destroyed all knowledge of, or where the Black Marker site and Red Marker Sites were. Which leads to Aegis 7, 200 years later.

      Yet there is also the fact that if the Black Marker was never taken by the Soverign Colonies an allied entity or lost somehow, that it remains somewhere on Earth still; somewhere TOP SECRET and someplace that would never be exposed unless the Earth were attacked by five Convergence Brethren Moons.

      See the part about DredgerCorp, if it was involved in salvage operations, it's entirely possible that despite Altman's actions, the Sovereign Colonies (who owned DredgerCorp back then) used the company to excavate the Black Marker back out.

      For your part of the assumption of "Earth Gov discovered their research over time and either began to re-experiment with the markers or attempt to hide the existence of the experimentation so more rebellions wouldn't happen", I don't think that's the case.

      If you recall in Dead Space 1 when Kendra betrayed Issac, she told him that her department had been searching for the Red Marker for some time.

      If that's true, then it meant EarthGov had known for some time that the Sovereign Colonies had made marker copies, but didn't know where they were hidden on.

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    • In all due honesty, I feel that the original Marker could have been on Earth the entire time. As we learn in Awakened the Moon knew where Earth was the whole time but were frozen because of the other alien weaponry