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Who created the Markers? SPOILERS

  • The fish like aliens did not invent the Markers they discovered them.

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    • That may never be known, considering it is estimated that the black marker landed on earth around 60 million years ago inside the asteroid that supposedly caused the mass extinction event that killed the dinosaurs. So it can be assumed that the black marker itself is much older than that, considering that the asteroid would have taken a very long time to get to earth from where-ever it came from, and of course it may have been in existence for quite some time before it ended up in an asteroid bound for earth.

      What is all boils down to is that if a technological civilization built the original markers, assuming the black one is an original or at least belongs to one of the first generations, most likely there would not be any traces of said civilization left.

      Otherwise the only leads one would have are the moons, and they do not seem interested in much other than their own survival/reproduction.

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    • Noone is 100% sure, they were only discovered like you had said

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    • Judging by what the Marker does, I believe it could a weapon of sorts much like the Xenomorph was initially.

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    • Actually, this could be either way. I mean, all we know now is what convergence is. We still don't really know who or what made the markers, or at least the original markers, and we still don't know the purpose of the moons. To be perfectly honest, WHEN Dead Space 4 comes out, because you know it will if you finished watching the credits, they'll probably explain, or at least heavily hint to us what or who created the markers and the purpose of the moons. Perhaps they're a scientific experiment that went horribly wrong, reminiscent of the Reapers, or purposely made to wipe out all organic life, to keep the galaxy in 'dead space'. Or maybe they're just grown naturally from something, somewhere, and somehow, they made it onto other planets. I mean, at the end of Dead Space 2, they are growing markers in mineral baths.

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    • Made? The Markers are self-similar, identical at every scale. Why else could a fragment act in much the same way as a whole, and why could a whole act in the same way after it's been damaged? The structure is not unlike a fractal, turning in on itself at ever finer scales, always the same.

      Separated by parsecs and millions of years, two sapient forms of life evolved with a neural anatomy similar enough to apply the same sort of brain scan technology for humans on these long-dead aliens. Is it so hard to believe the Markers could not arise in such a manner?

      A virus cannot create itself, but it can induce others to make more of its components, which will then assemble themselves. Once started, a Marker will crystalize in a self-similar manner, creating its own structure larger and larger, provided it has additional components. They do not need a single source to occur in different places with the same form. They could just be expressing a universal pattern in the same way that other crystals do in their structure. 

      Or maybe Hanik is getting to me.

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    • What I meant is that we don't know where they started, where the first marker originated from, or even possibly the first set of markers, if it is a set, of course.

      All I'm saying is we're in the dark here and it's on purpose. In the end, Dead Space is going to end out like the rest of EA's games; money-grabs. I just hope they finish the saga BEFORE Visceral loses total control of Dead Space. There's going to be a 4. We've just got to hope it explains more. And if the moons are purpose creations, or abominations. Although, if they're natural, I highly doubt a marker would automatically assimilate all organic matter if it had never encountered organic matter before. My guess is they're purpose creations, but ALL of us really don't know. At all. And we won't for a while. It's all wild speculation on our part, but with the brethren moons, I'm laying my cards on the table and saying they were purpose-made creations. Whether the intended effects are what we see or not... And being purpose-made, it would explain how one managed to find its way onto Earth via an asteriod. Which wiped out the dinosaurs.

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    • no one knows who build the black marker but the other markers build by humans for limitless energy because world's resources are depleted so humans search for new recourses

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    • I also assume that the Black Marker at least influenced evolution on Earth probably made humans the way they are. If not I believe humans have encountered necromorphs before Michael Altman´s time.

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    • The Assassin Creed games use that idea that humanity was created by an advanced civilization and modeled in their image. I believe Dead Space could do that in different ways, the inventors of the Markers were us but not us, the Black Marker was on Earth for 65 million years it could have some affect on the planet possibly it created the next few species that lived on Earth since the extinction of the dinosaurs.

      I believe whatever or whoever created the Markers left something out there even after all this time detailing who they were if the Marker lasted millions of years you can bet something of the inventors did as well.

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    • Wasn't it the Alien Necromorphs?

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    • Maybe the marker is like the pinnacle of evolution. Since the alien race that was wiped out on Tau Volantis was 2 million years extinct, then intelligent life has been around way longer than it has on earth, so maybe on some other planet in the galaxy there were life forms that had enough time to evolve so extensively that the end result of their evolution was something that resembled a Brethren Moon (think of how cells evolved by a bunch of different organisms evolving together into one). After that, with all the lifeforms on a planet eventually evolving to form on massive organism, it produced the marker in order to speed up the evolution of other species and becoming a Brethren Moon is the end result of any biosphere that has been given long enough to evolve. Just a thought though haha.

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    • (adding to above) And the ultimate convergence is for all the Brethren Moons to unite.

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    • 96.18.66.171 wrote: Otherwise the only leads one would have are the moons, and they do not seem interested in much other than their own survival/reproduction.

      Isn't survival/reproduction the ultimate goal of all life as we know it?

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    • The creators of the Markers were obviously hyper-advanced creatures that tried to create the markers to go to one of two purposes.

      A) Limitless energy: We all know the allure of the markers to most advanced civillizations s that they offer an unparalleled amount of energy to whoever has them.... so it is possible they were created so the race (in theory) would cause no pollution, need no minerals to burn etc, they would just get energy for very little cost as apparenly any race can afford to mass produce markers no matter their resource crisis (I'm looking at you humanity >:3)

      B) Endless life: Everyone knows that the Markers sole purpose is to re-animate dead tissue, but what if that in and of itself was their purpose? If someone died, they would be miraculously revived and healed up (Like the Regenerating Necromorphs). Or if someone had a stroke and lost portions of their mind, it would be regrown instantly... the potential would be insanely helpful.

      In both these scenarios, in some way - it would appear that the makers of the Markers were successful, only they did these things in the opposite fashion of their intention. Instead of the energy being used to help, it wipes out electonics and starts convergence events... instead of bringing people back to life it makes them kill themselves and others and then repurposes their bodies to suit it's bloodlust. 

      So it would appear whatever good intentions the markers creators had, suffice to say the Risk was not worth the reward.... and because of their failure the galaxy is doomed. Or is it?

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    • @LBCCP No, although that is a permanant goal of any organic species, our ultimate goal is to learn, to evolve and to grow into something greater. Without that goal our race would become stagnant... and as we all know, once something becomes stagnant, it becomes obsolete.

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    • LBCCCP wrote:

      96.18.66.171 wrote: Otherwise the only leads one would have are the moons, and they do not seem interested in much other than their own survival/reproduction.

      Isn't survival/reproduction the ultimate goal of all life as we know it?

      Of course, but other forms of life might have very different goals. Ultimately I think brethren moons are supposed to Lovecraftian in that they are alien intelligences beyond complete comprehension by humans.

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    • Oh God, scary thought.

      The Black Marker arrived on Earth in a meteor that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs, right? Well, what if it wasn't the meteor strike that killed them, but the Marker? And our Moon...

      Probably not, but it's still creepy to contemplate.

      OT: We don't know who made them or why, but we just got another large part of the puzzle, with the Bretheren Moons and all.

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    • I ALWAYS wonderered if the dinosaurs were actually necromorphs, too... It always crossed my mind... but when DS3 came out, you start on the moon. Think of the countless excavations they would've performed. There's NO WAY they would have overlooked that our moon is made of dead dinosaurs. They would've dug around too much.

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    • We can't have theories of who created the markers if no information is provided. This is the point that I am trying to prove with my thread. The only thing we can verify is that the creators exist since the markers are active and convergence events occur. 

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    • Rotomaniac wrote: I ALWAYS wonderered if the dinosaurs were actually necromorphs, too... It always crossed my mind... but when DS3 came out, you start on the moon. Think of the countless excavations they would've performed. There's NO WAY they would have overlooked that our moon is made of dead dinosaurs. They would've dug around too much.


      Well the Black Marker was on the meteor that killed off the Dinosaurs so the Dinosaurs were not necromorphs.

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    • I think the dinosaurs being necromorphs is a bit of a stretch, I could see maybe the dinos being victims of the necromorphs on the meteors arrival. However I revisited DS1 after playing 3 and while they explained what convergence was, I  am still uncertain about the red marker in DS1 having to be put back to stop the necromorphs. Unless it was just a trick to allow convergence on Aegis 7 to continue. I am a bit baffled and it may be a continuity issue.

      I can only guess they are going to explore what the convergence moons are linked to if they continue the series.

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    • You must remember though... markers aren't just rocks. There's a possibility, and a very big one, that they all have their own sentience and personallity. It is entirely possible that most markers are evil, but can be good by choice. It's a far-strech, but it'd explain A LOT.

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    • Its heavily implied that the Markers are somewhat sentient. I believe the Red Marker was one good marker it wanted to stop the Outbreak while the Black Marker I think was patient and methodical it probably influenced evolution on Earth waiting for a race that could recreate it and so millions of years of not getting it right, we humans came along.

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    • Exactly!!!! And what's not to say that the Site 12 Marker isn't some incredibly malevolent Marker hell bent on doing anything possible to start Convergence.

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    • Kryptonian25 wrote:
      Rotomaniac wrote: I ALWAYS wonderered if the dinosaurs were actually necromorphs, too... It always crossed my mind... but when DS3 came out, you start on the moon. Think of the countless excavations they would've performed. There's NO WAY they would have overlooked that our moon is made of dead dinosaurs. They would've dug around too much.

      Well the Black Marker was on the meteor that killed off the Dinosaurs so the Dinosaurs were not necromorphs.



      How many dead thing would there be after that? Not from being burned, but just from dying out from starvation and dehydration. That's a LOT of dead bio-mass, all ready for reanimation.

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    • I think our best clues as to the nature of the creators of the original markers was found in Dead Space 2.  The Ubermorph was different from the other necromorphs in that it did not appear to be made up of dead bodies.

      Common themes across the various Dead Space games:  Five eyes, multiple limbs, hive like behavior, telepathy with the collective.

      I'll bet the creator aliens are like South American army ants.  They create their hive with their bodies, consume everything in the immediate area that can't run away, then move on to the next area and repeat.  The marker creators are advanced in that they have mastered interstellar travel, advanced biological manipulation, and telepathy.  They are also very primitive in that they appear to be ruled by their need to consume entire planets full of life.

      This may be similar to the Reapers from Mass Effect as mentioned earlier.  The living (unliving) moons use the bodies of some hapless race to reproduce.

      On a side note, as I was playing DS 3 for the first time, a number of things kept bothering me.  When I first saw the moon, it reminded me of the Return of the Jedi Death Star.  I thought back to Obi-Wan in Star Wars, "that is no moon."  The aliens on Tau Volantis had six eyes and their writings, though somewhat similar, were not the same symbols as I saw on the markers.  I kept thinking something was not right until I got to the reveal.  :)

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    • lol dat Obi-Wan quote

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    • Here's a theory I've been working on (mentally anyway) which is probably a long shot but here it comes: Firstly the "Markers" are like a catalyst which sends out a signal which has at least two out comes: 1: It sends who/what ever is within it's range ether go mad/insane, they tend to kill every one around them or commit suicide, which in turn creates the "Necros" or 2: They interpret the "signal" as a blueprint to build more markers, thus increasing the range and detestation caused by the original Marker. Ok, here's my theory: the markers where a form of advanced data storage device (something like the beacons in the Mass Effect Universe) which contained information on the original creators (like there genetic code, biochemistry, infrastructure and there civilization, ect.), but also contained information of there current/experimental technology including genetic engineering, Bio-weapons research, advanced blueprints for the constitution of highly technologically advanced machines ect and the signal is how they communicate. I think that the black marker found on earth may have been meant to have been sent some were else but some where it went of course causing it to impact on earth (it could have been sent to say another planet of it's creators but struck some thing big say like another moon or missed it's intended target and was sling shot causing to end up on a collision course with Earth). So that's my theory.

      On a side note: The “Necros” have very similar references to many other games ie, they seem to be like the thing, Imps (Doom ect), Aliens ect, also the markers or is it the “moons” just want total domination of the universe. 

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    • 67.161.176.209 wrote:
      Oh God, scary thought.

      The Black Marker arrived on Earth in a meteor that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs, right? Well, what if it wasn't the meteor strike that killed them, but the Marker? And our Moon...

      Probably not, but it's still creepy to contemplate.

      OT: We don't know who made them or why, but we just got another large part of the puzzle, with the Bretheren Moons and all.


      On a side note, the U.S. Government had a plan to detonate a nuclear device on the moon in the '70s. Welp, looks like I just created the next big conspiracy theory!


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    • What if the markers are some sort of terraforming device? In other words, like the drescolada virus from Ender's game? They self replicate (via the makers) and evolve life into a self aware planetoid.

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    • THE BRENTHEN MOONS created the markers.

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    • Not necessarily. Maybe the Markers are the "real" deal, and the necromorphs/brother moons are their tools.

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    • not. you see, the brother moons also have all of the Markers' abilities. if the markers are their superiors, they will resist them.

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    • Which therefore makes you wonder, how was the first Brethren Moon created?

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    • god

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote: Which therefore makes you wonder, how was the first Brethren Moon created?

      That's like reading a Spider-Man comic, and wondering how the Earth was formed.

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote: Which therefore makes you wonder, how was the first Brethren Moon created?

      That's like reading a Spider-Man comic, and wondering how the Earth was formed.

      Your point?

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    • I hate marvel. 

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    • 72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote: Which therefore makes you wonder, how was the first Brethren Moon created?

      That's like reading a Spider-Man comic, and wondering how the Earth was formed.

      Your point?

      It's irrelevant

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote:

      Einsteinium99 wrote:

      72.197.197.240 wrote: Which therefore makes you wonder, how was the first Brethren Moon created?

      That's like reading a Spider-Man comic, and wondering how the Earth was formed.
      Your point?
      It's irrelevant

      Not necessarily if Visceral starts up Dead Space 4

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    • There's no reason to go THAT far back in the timeline

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    • Einsteinium99 wrote:
      There's no reason to go THAT far back in the timeline


      Not that we can see, but that depends on Visceral's POV.

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    • no one created the markers they created themselves they are a self sentient race of sorts they came into being through a complex evolution probobaly on a parasatic bases and considering the limits way for evolution the parasatic creature probably started consuming dead biomass instead of living and eventually gained some of intellect to creat a way to clone it self into a hivemind using a device that would later be called markersnow using the second half of this theory it's possible an alien being wanted imortatility an utter dominionence of the universe there by creating the hivemind complexity for which the necromorph is based on i could go on forever with the possibilities around this sort of theory but either the necromorphs/markers evolved or were made by a greater individual becuase no group would be willing to do such thing as give one person dominionence over all through hivemind that would be the equivilent of giving someone your souyl emotions and thoughts so no sane person would do that now if visceral doesn't do one of the possibilities of evolved or created for ones purpose DS4 will be trash it won't make sense would it?

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    • Drakonmaster wrote: no one created the markers they created themselves they are a self sentient race of sorts they came into being through a complex evolution probobaly on a parasatic bases and considering the limits way for evolution the parasatic creature probably started consuming dead biomass instead of living and eventually gained some of intellect to creat a way to clone it self into a hivemind using a device that would later be called markersnow using the second half of this theory it's possible an alien being wanted imortatility an utter dominionence of the universe there by creating the hivemind complexity for which the necromorph is based on i could go on forever with the possibilities around this sort of theory but either the necromorphs/markers evolved or were made by a greater individual becuase no group would be willing to do such thing as give one person dominionence over all through hivemind that would be the equivilent of giving someone your souyl emotions and thoughts so no sane person would do that now if visceral doesn't do one of the possibilities of evolved or created for ones purpose DS4 will be trash it won't make sense would it?

      [citation needed]

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    • Drakonmaster wrote:
      no one created the markers they created themselves they are a self sentient race of sorts they came into being through a complex evolution probobaly on a parasatic bases and considering the limits way for evolution the parasatic creature probably started consuming dead biomass instead of living and eventually gained some of intellect to creat a way to clone it self into a hivemind using a device that would later be called markersnow using the second half of this theory it's possible an alien being wanted imortatility an utter dominionence of the universe there by creating the hivemind complexity for which the necromorph is based on i could go on forever with the possibilities around this sort of theory but either the necromorphs/markers evolved or were made by a greater individual becuase no group would be willing to do such thing as give one person dominionence over all through hivemind that would be the equivilent of giving someone your souyl emotions and thoughts so no sane person would do that now if visceral doesn't do one of the possibilities of evolved or created for ones purpose DS4 will be trash it won't make sense would it?


      that does seem to make sense

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    • There is the possibality the oracles think about it when they said "you don't possess the language to tell us." And when they refer to the Necromorph outbreak as "an unfortunate side effect". Perhaps they are aliens posing as humans

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    • hmm perhaps or maybe their a part of an organization more powerful and way more secretive than the unitology or perhaps they are a more evolved part of the human race i could see that making it into DS4 the only theory i can put into a more evolved race human beings in the dead space universe is that someone was able to succesfully use a marker to enhance human capabillities without turning them into necromorphs but the oracles don't really show any amazing powers outside of their technology such as the ring that kills that one magpie or the weird laser gun that was built for killing necromorphs

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    • As far as the purpose of the Markers go, I can't help but think of that movie Supernova.  The idea being that the Markers are advanced alien-engineered weapons designed to ensure the primacy of one intelligent life form by wiping out all others in the galaxy.  Angela Basset said it best; "Our universe is expanding, but the matter in it is finite.  This thing is designed to fix that problem." - "So, it's a creation device?" - "Yeah, until you get it home, then it destroys your planet, supernova's your sun and evaporates your solar system." - "Why?" - "It's a way to replenish the universe and also eliminate any competition.  All the basic principles of Darwinian evolution: any species advanced enough to travel into deep space picks it up and takes it home.  Then there's one less advanced species in the universe." - "Who would think of something like that?" - "Whoever they are, they're as smart as God and a lot less nice." -- Not quite the same situation as the one in Dead Space but the possibility remains that the Markers don't have a purpose more complicated than whats been advertised; they simply wipe out all intelligent life in their path.  Maybe that's what they were made for.  Convergence just provides them with a means of relocating themselves to hunt for more resources.  A way for the Markers to finish the job without relying on us curious, intrepid humans to give them a lift everywhere as evidenced when those moons managed to outrun a shockpoint drive in the race to reach Earth.

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    • actually the moons had a head start by slowing down isaac and carver with visions, and logically any being smart enough to create markers would not look at the universe as simple as wiping out the compitition. think about it  see we humans aren't very easily defined by dawninism the smarted a creature gets the less darwinistic it becomes

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    • smarter not smarted what the derp is wrong with my grammer?

      as i was saying the more evolved a creature gets the less likely it will be wiped out meaning that evolution will move to the next stage

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    • Then God help us when the common Cold becomes self-aware, because we're all screwed.  Anyway, I wouldnt think there was anything simple about building a giant edifice where every single particle is a holographic copy of the whole, with telepathic properties to boot.  I wouldnt play chess with anyone who could invent something like that.  Maybe the Markers and the reasons they were created can never be understood.  We're all just throwing spaghetti at the wall until EA decides what's-what.  But the idea that the Markers are weapons scans.  They are incredibly complex and intriguing objects almost guaranteed to draw the interest of other intelligent life forms - or beings with conscious minds that can be manipulated by the telepathic signal which seems to universally inspire delusions, hallucinations and homicidalmania (all destructive psychological responses) which then supplies the Marker with fresh corpses to mutate into Necromorphs who exist purely to slaughter living beings and create more Necromorphs culminating in a great convergence of dead flesh.  I don't think it's a coincidence that the end result of finding a Marker is the destruction of your civilization and the genocide of your species.  I think it's deliberate, I think the Markers are doing what they were meant to do; systematically destroy all intelligent life forms.  If I'm right about that, then what follows is the question why?  Are the Markers relics of some billion-years-old galactic conflict, or some experiment?  Maybe some war toy that got away from it's maker?  I'm going with the idea that the manufacturers are still around and enjoying the results, because I'd find that idea scary.  I'd find that idea Boss.  If they created weapons like the Markers billions of years ago, what would they be capable of now and how the hell would we survive giving them a piece of our collective minds for unleashing those horrid things in our universe?  Maybe we'll find out, maybe we wont, but this is where my head's at.    

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    • from my point of view it seems like you're trying to use the impossible to comprehind theory while a theory like this is true when comparing different intelligences to one another.the actual reason for a persons incomprehindablility if you actually looked at it is always either the smarter or the dumber one's ignorance.

      The common cold could never become sentient becuase you never get infected with the same virus again unless it's a newly mutated strain ,but even then it's not  the same . even if the common cold did somehow become sentient it would have to realise that if it killed off it's foodsource it would die from starvation.

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      Honestly. Do I NEED to give you a reason? Just look at it.
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    • 67.161.176.209 wrote:
      Oh God, scary thought.

      The Black Marker arrived on Earth in a meteor that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs, right? Well, what if it wasn't the meteor strike that killed them, but the Marker? And our Moon...


      This is actually a pretty interesting theory! It's been proven countless times that Necromorphs aren't only able to form from Humans, but by all animals (and maybe even plants)! If it could happen to a fish, then it could certainly happen to a Dinosaur! It's always fascinated me how the Marker has the ability to "know" the body stucture and mind of the living creatures around it and use them to form its own dastardly and devious creatures bent on mayhem. Dead Space: Martyr describes a Necromorph fish which behaves like all other Necromorphs, as it attacks another fish in order to kill and infect it. In Dead Space 3, Lurker's are now shown to be created from dogs the very same as they can be made from human infants. It even jumps the SENTIENT species boundary, being able to make Brutes and Crawlers from a species that never even inhabited Earth, and even more unknown Necro's from the animals that inhabited said planet. Its interesting to think about what other planets the Moons have conquered and what sort of Necromorphs would be made from the remains of their inhabitants. Who knows who made the Markers, or why? The origins of the Markers aren't important. What's important is understanding them and their Necromorphs, learning their strengths and weaknesses and ultimately, how to defeat them.



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    • Woops, sorry. Accidentally mixed my message in with his XD

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    • We know the brethren moons cannot really be the original creators of the markers because:

      a) They are the final outcome of the process of the markers themselves...i.e. convergence.  When the markers finish what they are intended to do, the result is a moon.  They are the END of the process, not the beginning.

      b)  Purely physiologically speaking, how in the hell would a giant moon monster with no opposable thumbs create any type of construction?  These things are massive organic beings (like the Zerg) that have EVOLVED to be able to do what they do.  They pretty clearly do not BUILD things.

      So it must be some sort of ancient race.  Perhaps whoever engineered the original black marker (we assume it's the first but perhaps IT was a perversion of something even MORE ancient, created by this archaic race, similarly to how humans can only create 2nd rate RED markers, perversions of the black marker) was intended to do something other than what it does.  Perhaps it is a Phllip K. Dick type of concept: the originally intended "benevolent god" (a technology intended to unite all beings minds as one to experiences a collective consciousness) was accidentally or intentionally usurped by the creation of a ravenous "god" which only desires to consume.

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    • Kai.kravit wrote:
      We know the brethren moons cannot really be the original creators of the markers because:

      a) They are the final outcome of the process of the markers themselves...i.e. convergence.  When the markers finish what they are intended to do, the result is a moon.  They are the END of the process, not the beginning.

      b)  Purely physiologically speaking, how in the hell would a giant moon monster with no opposable thumbs create any type of construction?  These things are massive organic beings (like the Zerg) that have EVOLVED to be able to do what they do.  They pretty clearly do not BUILD things.                





      Yes, there is a possibility of the Moons being the Marker creators, if the Moons are the final outcome, the Markers could be a step in their reproductive system.  The Moons absorb fragments of the affected planet along with the biosphere during a Convergence event, it's obvious that the fragments are used to form the "shell" or "crust" that gives them their moon like appearance, and the Markers created by the race being absorbed are also consumed. Therefor, it's possible that the Moons use those Markers to create the Black Markers, and use the extra fragments of the planet as a sort of delivery system. (The way the Black Marker arrived on Earth supports this) Once the Marker arrives on a planet, and an intelligent lifeform is detected, it begins the process of a Necromorph infection that we've seen over the course of the series, triggers Convergence, forms a new Brethren Moon, repeat. This process may take thousands/millions of years, but it makes sense.



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    • Crap, I posted my reply on that by accident.

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    • I don't even need to read that to know what you're going to say. And you're wrong. The Moons are the final process of an artificial method created by another race. They may be self sustaining, but they are NOT things that came from evolution. They're experiments of another species either gone rampant.


      One word: Bismuth.

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    • which came first the chicken or the egg? this is essentially your argument.

      heres a funny thought what if the moons where created to gather resources for the race assuming a race of being/species made them to do this ,but all this does is create dead space in other areas other than their own where they are prosperous from this biomass farming-  a race able to biomass farm would have a unlimited uses for it such as eternal life you can also biuld anything out of it also a house, food and etc.

      what do you thing of that theory?

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    • ok. the black marker hit Earth 60 million years ago, then was pulled out of the ocean and an outbreak occurred. was it just a shard that they pulled out? what happened to the black marker (maybe fragment) after that? then I think we created the red marker, which I think may have been flawed, which was left on we all know which god-forsaken planet, yet was destroyed later by Isaac. then he destroyed the marker in Dead Space 2 (idk the marker's name). now I really have absolutely no idea what happens in Dead Space 3, this moon theory, personalities theory, or pretty much anything that happens in DS3 or it's DLC, please fill in the gaps for a fellow DS expert.  

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    • Considering the hivemind like state of the moons and ALL their necromorphic creations it is possible the 1st moon was an amalgamation of a hivemind like sentient species lokking to complete their mental unity. The dead space universe works in circles. The moons all have the same motto "make us whole" something that is said even by completed moons. A reminiscent voice of the initial species that cannot find unity. The moons are not individual creatures that think alike they ARE a singular mental entity broken down in many bodies that tries to survive long enough to complete itself. Even the moons themselves may not be the Necromorphic endstate maybe when enough are created even they will "become whole".

      What was the initial species though? That is heavily hinted by the game itself especially in DS3. No matter the initial species the Markers infect the end Necromorphs follow some basic principles.

      Brutes (human)=Allien Necromorphs

      Crawlers (human)=Allien exploding fetushes

      Lurkers (human)=Lurkers (dog)

      etc

      The markers mold flesh in the image of the initial species that became the Moons.

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    • 2.84.248.254 wrote:
      Considering the hivemind like state of the moons and ALL their necromorphic creations it is possible the 1st moon was an amalgamation of a hivemind like sentient species lokking to complete their mental unity. The dead space universe works in circles. The moons all have the same motto "make us whole" something that is said even by completed moons. A reminiscent voice of the initial species that cannot find unity. The moons are not individual creatures that think alike they ARE a singular mental entity broken down in many bodies that tries to survive long enough to complete itself. Even the moons themselves may not be the Necromorphic endstate maybe when enough are created even they will "become whole".

      What was the initial species though? That is heavily hinted by the game itself especially in DS3. No matter the initial species the Markers infect the end Necromorphs follow some basic principles.

      Brutes (human)=Allien Necromorphs

      Crawlers (human)=Allien exploding fetushes

      Lurkers (human)=Lurkers (dog)

      etc

      The markers mold flesh in the image of the initial species that became the Moons.

      This is a great theory. Probably combine it with the idea that maybe the original creators ran into the same problem as humans despite being advanced. Energy and resources are finite. Maybe they wanted to create a collective mind could could act as one and not compete, and/or create a form of "life" that didn't need resoureces, just a marker to keep a species alive. But in both ways they messed up somehow.

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    • ^ To add the original species probably thought they succeeded and gave themselves to their marker creations only to unleash a never ending plague.

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    • God created everything including the first ever marker which may not be the black marker

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    • the moons

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    • Unless the creators reveal the truth, we never can really know. Maybe the Markers were created by an ancient alien civilization, and they may have been destroyed by the Necromorphs. My guess, in the game universe, is that the Unitologists were right, and the Markers were created by God, but as some form of punishment for our sins.

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    • Noone is 100% sure, they were only discovered like you had said

      PS4 Modded Controllers

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    • 90.199.158.202 wrote:
      @LBCCP No, although that is a permanant goal of any organic species, our ultimate goal is to learn, to evolve and to grow into something greater. Without that goal our race would become stagnant... and as we all know, once something becomes stagnant, it becomes obsolete.


      That's more of a self assumed goal than an inherent imperative of life. It makes for a nice sound bite but there is no innate drive to become something 'more' in the human psyche beyond the desire for survival for ourself and our progeny. 

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    • Interesting thought what if markers are a  alien way of planet cracking. I mean you have the perfect killing machine that kills off a species and in turn makes a new killing machine  the more bodies at its disposal. What if some other ancient ancient species created the markers to kill opposing species so they could steal all their resources considering it only affect biological matter. Also a possibility is that the creators lost control of the markers and got killed by their own monster. Of course this theory has some holes that nee  to be filled

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    • I honestly really like the first idea.

      Aliens create the ultimate superweapon to devoid a planet of all life, then they move in and take the resources from the barren world.

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    • At the beginning at Deadspace 3, Earthgov is already massproducing the markers for energy and found a way to block the Marker's signals getting out and effecting the public.

      So possible theory is the markers were made by an ancient alien race on purpose to consume life and create the breathren moons and stay hungry for more life thus providing their markers with more energy since they are constantly looking for more life to consume. In theory this race either got consumed by their marker or more likely since they had an idea what outcome the markers would have, they created technology to keep their marker from infecting their population and to keep the breathren moons from coming to their sector of space. Might be able to step further that they can communicate with their marker and control the moons to keep them away.

      Ofcourse for deadspace game that they got consumed by their technology before being able to deploy their other technology to control their markers would be best. Would gives us completely alien necromorphs, explanation to how this all got started, and more importantly a way to end it all.

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    • I think the answer has been in front of us this whole time.  No matter what storyline you are sourcing from in the Dead Space universe, no matter what period in time, civilization faces a critical resource crisis.  Despite how far out into the galaxy mankind spreads, regardless of how many planets they crack they use up goods and materials faster than they can replace them and the problems are getting worse across the board.  Now imagine its a few billion years ago, and another civilization was facing this same dilemma only, unlike us, they had to compete with dozens, maybe even hundreds of other intelligent species for those same sparse resources.  Territorial disputes are common, wars are unending, every species is in a constant race for that bigger piece of the galactic pie.  So one species decides the best answer is to thin the competition.  But how?  Weapons of mass destruction would wipe out both the enemy and their resources together, thus defeating the purpose.  A plague?  But those can be identified as a threat fairly quickly and responded to accordingly with quarantines, bio-scans, immunizations - not nearly effective enough.  So this species designs a weapon that is esoteric and intriguing in design and mysterious in function; the Marker.  Nobody knows where it came from, who made it or why so instead of immediately regarding it as a threat they cautiously treat it as a curiosity, studying it's strangely DNA-shaped architecture and more than a little interested in it's seemingly limitless ability to generate energy.  By the time they realize the full extent of the Maker's capabilities it's too late to contain it, the Necromorph outbreaks are in full swing and the countdown to convergence has begun.  The Necromorphs reach critical mass, the raw material is gathered up by the Marker to form a Brethren Moon, the Moon finishes the job of devouring all life on the planet before floating off to it's next target.  The planet is whole, the resources are intact and ripe for the picking, only the competition is wiped out and the self-sufficient weapon is now merrily on it's way to begin the cycle anew with the rest of your enemies.  Now we fast-forward a few million millennia and the more things change the more they stay the same.  Mankind is in a centuries -long expansion phase pushing out into the cosmos desperately seeking resources to save their failing civilization when lo' and behold, they find Markers instead and it's deja vu all over again.  This is my favorite theory because I think it fits the story best - for instance, it would explain why the Markers do what they do and why mankind seems to be the only intelligent race in the galaxy; because the Markers destroyed the rest, their own makers possibly being their first victims.  Remember that quote from Nicole during the final battle in Dead Space 2?  "The Makers must be absorbed!"  It wouldn't be the first time science fiction depicted an advanced civilization paying a price for giving freakishly powerful weapons self-awareness, i.e. SkyNet.  Anyway, I have no supporting facts, there's just a logical progression to all this untold backstory so feel free to shoot it full'o holes.    

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    • This idea may not have much meat behind it, but a possible theory is that the markers select someone to be the mind of the Brethren Moon it is trying to create. In the book Dead Space Catalyst, there is a part where Istvan raises his hands above his head and brings them down. Just as they are brought down, the marker releases a massive pulse which begins the necromorph outbreak. It's almost as if he is in control of the marker. And since he seems to be able to "communicate" with the marker, it is as if he is its prophet and speaks for it and is able to understand it.

      While I don't necessarily think this myself, I'm just throwing it out there as another possibility.

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    • I have a theory maybe the brethren moons were as they are now but in a natural form, natural giant moon size beings. However some catastrophe put them in danger of extinction and to survive they decided to reproduce themselves by creating an infection with they're own DNA which would convert organic matter of living worlds into them, a clone if you will. Necromorphs of both human, and the aliens of Tau Volantis were said to have the same alien DNA, so either that DNA came from an alien race who built the Markers, or if my theory is correct then there may be a handful or at least one Brethren Moon which is pure natural, instead of having been built through markers, and who may be controlling the others. If my theory is correct destroying these pure breed brethren moons may stop the infection.

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    • Get out of my way,non science contributors!I think markers may be built for specific "Convergence" evets different from ones inthe game.Maybe The non pure Brethren moons acknowledge their creators and decide to make"Copies" of the very first markers,but it is impossible for a species of low intelligence,the markers the made are for different purposes.Maybe the original lot of markers blueprints are destroyed or sold to any race entrusted they can control the markers,chance of modifying the markers as keys to stop the infection,forever.

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    • Maybe the moons are parts of something even bigger, maybe, just maybe they aren't infact the final life cycle of the necromorph but they are part of it. When the moons say Take Us Home, Isaac. Make Us Whole" It may indacate that the moons are one minded and they want to have only one body which means that there will be a other event: a Great Convergence you may say, which will combine all of the moons into one entite, a Necromorphic planet you can say. Which would sound really scary. Maybe they were created by the first moons  (Maybe they were tow of them) to make himself whole again because is mind was deorganized and was unable to achieve multiples task. But whit a brand new body which can handle all of it. This would make it a even greater theat.

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    • 有趣,那可能是史前文明的产物。

      oh I forget this is a English community.

      I will translate what I said

      marker (maybe) is made by plant heself.

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    • Probably Isaac Clark or brethen moons or Altman

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    • maybe some type of super artifacts,immense power got out of the hand of the creators,the crators make necromorphs for defense,but the marker controlled them.or the marker WAS an egg for a pure breed moon!?

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    • hear me out on this but the markers have a simlier desgin to the reapers of mass effect (sorry about bad spelling i'm dyslexic

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